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How to fix Pam 202a crooked dial?

prelude

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I just recieved my pam 202a from member sale and just found out that dial is crooked. How hard is it to fix crooked dial? I am attaching picture. All the expert please help.
Thanks.

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d4m.test

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What the hell? That is REALLY crooked. I dont see how the stem is still attached to the crown and the movement.
You are going to need to open it and see what the movement looks like.


I forgot these dont use dial feet... The dial just came unglued from the movement.

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cybee

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Wow that is very strange. I have a Pam 113 dial that just sits on the movement cause it's pressure fitted (no dial feet). You will need to ascertain whether the dial has feet or not. If not you can realign it and put a little glue or dial dots to secure it on the movement.
 

prelude

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If I took this watch to my watchsmith is it gonna be easily fixable or difficult to fix this?
 

CHOB

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prelude said:
If I took this watch to my watchsmith is it gonna be easily fixable or difficult to fix this?

I saw this FS and almost picked it up myself! you should also talk to the Member *cough* that sold it to you! A little reimbursement is in order.
 
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d4m.test

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There is no need for a reimbursement... The seller could have had this watch and there was never an issue.
These dials are attached to the movements with very tiny pieces of double sided tape. Understand that the watch movement also has oil on it... Which in a rather short time can make the tape rather useless.
By shipping the watch, it was thrown around and the dial came loose. NO BIG DEAL.
I have been doing this a long time, and Ive had this happen to me at least a few times. It will take a reasonably competent watch maker 15 minutes to repair it.

Just DO NOT RUN THE WATCH WHILE IT IS LIKE THIS... It is possible that the hour hand can scratch the dial!

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prelude

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Thank you CBR. I will take to my watchsmith who has been work on my gen rolex previously (independent watchsmith). This will be first time I will take rep to him and I will see how he react. Wish me luck.
 

babola

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Dial is good, install is substandard.
This dial was never supposed to be installed on its own, without the proper base plate with feet. The maker of these dials specificaly stressed this, and any other corner cutting method like this one will produce similar results and potentialy re-appear its ugly head in the future.

Double side tape "fix" isn't really a fix.
See if you can find a spare rep Pam sausage dial somewhere. Damaged, scratched etc dial is just fine. Base plate of a sandwich dial is also OK, even better as it would provide better thickness fit once the top and bottom are glued together.
Post a WTB for one here on the forum, also any half-decent dealer should be able to source you one for some $20-30 or so.

In case of spare sausage dial, sand down the top paint layer, stop once you get to the brass metal underneath. Polish the top with 600-800 grit sand paper or even finer. Make sure the finish is even.
I would use bottom plate of sandwich dial if I were you, simply because the thickness of it is just right. Detach the two layers, clean the bottom plate from glue and sand the residual lume markers. If sausage dial is only dial sort you can find, you may need to sand it a little bit more untill you reach the 'correct' thickness, its trial and error basicaly.

Take then your watch and the base plate you've just prepared to your watchmaker...he will basicaly know where to from there. If you decide to do DIY job, and stull in doubt, you know my PM, I'm happy to assist.

...and please don't just end up glueing the top dial plate to the underside of the mov't, it's not just bad practice, it's not on at all :wink:

Good luck!
 

cybee

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prelude said:
I will take to my watchsmith who has been work on my gen rolex previously (independent watchsmith). This will be first time I will take rep to him and I will see how he react. Wish me luck.

Please post what your watchmaker says, I am curious to know what he will charge you for this.
 

horologie_unitas

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double sided tape ?

sounds like FLAV......dont do it....

but there is a special compound to glue dials onto the movement. just dont smear it into any gears ........