Looking for rubber strap watch.. Was originally interested in the AP ROO 15720 but these Panerai models have caught my eye and I do favor VSF, particularly the 42mm 1579 or 1565, or the 40mm 1408. I get the thickness isn't very accurate, and maybe too inaccurate on the 40mm, but more importantly what's this I hear about a fish-eye effect on the crystal, is it that bad? I've read people 'swap crystals', however I'm very novice with this so I'm more about just wearing it as it is.
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How bad is the fish-eye crystal flaw?
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That's a very subjective thing. You can only see the effect if you look at the watch at a very obtuse angle. And it's not as if you can't see any distortion at all at an obtuse angle with the Gens or the newer 44mm from VSF. It's just a different distortion without the fisheye effect.
For me personally, that wouldn't be a reason not to buy the watch. However, I would generally advise against the 40mm models - you've mentioned the reasons yourself. If you don't have very thin arms, you might want to consider the 44mm models. You mention the AP 15720 as an alternative. It is just as big on the arm as the 44mm Submersibles, as it is larger due to the model.
For me personally, that wouldn't be a reason not to buy the watch. However, I would generally advise against the 40mm models - you've mentioned the reasons yourself. If you don't have very thin arms, you might want to consider the 44mm models. You mention the AP 15720 as an alternative. It is just as big on the arm as the 44mm Submersibles, as it is larger due to the model.
17.5cm wrist. thinner wrists, but big arms. Is that the 1579 in the first photo? How do you like that one? I've never considered a 44, but if you think 17.5cm wrist is OK for 44, then I do conside the PAM1391 something I may get.That's a very subjective thing. You can only see the effect if you look at the watch at a very obtuse angle. And it's not as if you can't see any distortion at all at an obtuse angle with the Gens or the newer 44mm from VSF. It's just a different distortion without the fisheye effect.
For me personally, that wouldn't be a reason not to buy the watch. However, I would generally advise against the 40mm models - you've mentioned the reasons yourself. If you don't have very thin arms, you might want to consider the 44mm models. You mention the AP 15720 as an alternative. It is just as big on the arm as the 44mm Submersibles, as it is larger due to the model.
I have 17.5cm wrist and had a few 44mm Pam’s. I’d say it’s the perfect size. Measure the width across the top of your wrist where the watch will sit. Mine is 5.5cm
I have also 17,5cm and 44 is my sweet spot. But again - that´s very subjective ;-)
The Submersibles (and the AP Divers too) are designed to be big watches. These are not sports steel models or even dress watches. Of course, these watches should be smaller in order to be effective in terms of design, but the opposite is the case with the sporty divers from Panerai and AP, but also with a Blancpain FF or watches from Hublot, for example.
But people are also creatures of habit. If you have only worn 36mm or 39mm watches your whole life, a 44mm Submersible may well seem large to you at first. Incidentally, I also have a 47mm Submersible and it fits me very well ;-)
The 1579 is a very nice summer watch that is great to wear. But you should also be aware that the white dial is rather ‘boring’. If you prefer to have some ‘action’ on the dial and 42mm is the sweet spot, you could consider the 1565 with its blue sunburst dial. But that's also a question of personal taste. They are both beautiful.
Here's a little ‘on the wrist’ comparison between 42, 44 and 47 ;-)
Great information thank you. Top of wrist to where it will sit is also around 5.5cm ish. I have a Rolex OP41 and a Yachtmaster 40 on order. Want something summer-like and more unique. So are the design flaws of these reps more pronounced on the 42's, rather than the 44's? I do agree the 1565 looks great. That may be my choice.
Another vote for the 44mm. I have 18cm wrist and 44 wears really well. Of course is a big watch, but it's a Panerai!
Ok, I admit that I look to this downsizing thing for them as watering down what are the design values of the brand. I am definetly biased.
I think Panerai throw themselves away by tring to follow the current trends. Pity for a brand that was born creating trends...
To be honest you all got me excited to go for a 44mm model but I cannot find one I prefer over the 1565. The design of the 1565 just looks great to my taste, the color scheme and all. So it appears I will have to settle for the 42. Will be my first Panerai
Jay - Which model is your white PAM? BEAUTIFUL.Here's a little ‘on the wrist’ comparison between 42, 44 and 47 ;-)
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Just like once written in the rolex forum: the only perfectly allign rolex is a rep rolex.
Never noticed the fisheye myself as I look at my watch at a normal angle.
Never noticed the fisheye myself as I look at my watch at a normal angle.
For me Panerais case shape just doesnt work in 40mm. Even gen seems off and misses the mark. Can't really explain it, but the design work really well in 44mm. 47mm is fine for larger wrist.
Fisheye never bothered me. I think it actually adds a bit of something special to the 382 for example. Big chunky diver - the fisheye effect kind of suits it.
Besides some newer VSF reps use crystals without the fisheye effect. VSF 1324 ad 1323 don't have the fisheye effect.
Fisheye never bothered me. I think it actually adds a bit of something special to the 382 for example. Big chunky diver - the fisheye effect kind of suits it.
Besides some newer VSF reps use crystals without the fisheye effect. VSF 1324 ad 1323 don't have the fisheye effect.
The most disgusting thing about the 40mm Radiomirs is they only have 50m water resistance.....
Tbh, albeit I have 20cm wrists these days, and had 17,5 years ago, I would stick with 44mm on any Pam. There are many reps available which come really close to the gen Panerai watches. Bear in mind though, the more complications the more issues with accuracy and reliability. ;-) and the best size is 44 as these are most produced / repped imo.