Help with MOVT

[v00id]

Hello !

Someone can help with this - I need to find what movt's it is ...

1. MOVT

2. MOVT

 

[Olga]

It is a Landeron 52 manual wind chronograph.

 

[takashi]

Can be a Seagull ST19.

 

[v00id]

Can be a Seagull ST19.

First or Second - or its same movement ?

 

[Olga]

Here is a picture of the st19. You can decide for yourself.

 

[rbj69]

it is a st 19 i believe, but im no expert on these older ones but it does have the st engraved on it in your first pics is why i say this

joe

 

[Olga]

Here is another pic of the 52 in a Moeris chronograph that was on ebay.

 

[alligoat]

I would agree that the second movement picture is a Landeron 52, based on the other two examples you've shown. As for the first picture, I would think it's also a Landeron, based on the bridge in the upper left hand side of the movement being the same as the 52 bridge. Landeron 48, 49, 148... In fact, one of my vintage chronos is a Landeron, guess I could open it up, but I don't remember which model it was- two sub dials. Guess I'll go look.

 

[alligoat]

The first pic is a Landeron 49, my final answer! It matches mine and it looks like a 49 under the balance wheel
at the base of the bridge. It also says Swiss Made or Suisse at 10-11 o'clock- it ain't Seagull!

 

[Olga]

Sorry, I didn't even realize that they were two different movements. So I only looked at the bottom one, that is the 52. The top picture is I believe also a Landeron, but it is the 248. That one is a little tougher to match because Landeron made quite a few similar looking movements. The 248 seems to match part for part with your picture.