Help identifying this Pam111 (H-factory or Noob)

[delusion78]

Hi guys,

Recently bought this replica Pam111 from a guy locally. As im new to this hobby, need your expert advise on which maker this is from ?

Thanks Below are some pics for your expert advice


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[jonnyknox]

Sorry, but the pics are not very crisp :-(

Regarding the printed and not engraved OP on the movement bridge, I bet for h-fac.

 

[delusion78]

hi bro ,

yeah, i saw the printed OP, gotta blame myself for not getting educated here first prior to buying, kinda got ripped ... could have gotten 2 of Noob's Pam v3 over at the TD side... expensive lesson...

Thanks bro for the clarification

 

[razorblade]

Looks a lot like a H-factory piece.

 

[delusion78]

for the H-factory comparing to the genuine . Aside from the Op engraving is there any clear difference people could see its a replica ?

Sorry for the newbie question cos im relatively new to this world

 

[mysterio]

for the H-factory comparing to the genuine . Aside from the Op engraving is there any clear difference people could see its a replica ?

Sorry for the newbie question cos im relatively new to this world

Everyone is new at one point. You get away from that title by educating yourself and that you can do by just reading up on the threads. Another clear tell is the lack of a Y-incabloc and sometimes the micrometric screw on the swan neck is too short and is not touching the dagger. (again you can learn what these things are by reading up. ALE's stickied thread on the swan neck is a very good reference.

 

[delusion78]

Thanks guys for all your advice

Really appreciate it & will definately do more reading & research

 

[ALE7575]

Hi delusion
This watch is a M series from Noob. With the CG before correction of sharp inner edges.
I don't know why people are saying is a H maker ! Maybe for the old CG.
As said by mysterio look at the short screw of SN and the shape of the support of SN spring. They are typical Noob and wrong.

The main differences with the gen are: two above mentioned flaws and that it has not Y-shaped Incabloc.

But be happy because IMO this is better rep than a H maker in general.

ALE

 

[delusion78]

Hi Ale,

thanks for e info, really appreciate it, have been educating myself through the forums lately and this time round after careful selection will be getting a Pam390n (H-factory) from Tony .... Hopefully thats a gd buy this time ! hahahaha

 

[Bonesey]

390 is lovely, probably the most gen like of all the Pam's I've had. You won't be dissapointed.

 

[delusion78]

Hi Bonesey,

Yeah cant wait for that elegant & versatile piece, hopefully receive the QC pics from Tony soon - an early perfecr Xmas gift for myself

Cheers mates

 

[delusion78]

QC PICS (ARRIVED) ! - Thanks TONY !

ANY EXPERT OPINIONS ?

 

[ALE7575]

390 is lovely, probably the most gen like of all the Pam's I've had. You won't be dissapointed.

I agree completely with Bones

One of my preferred PAMs

...Besides, all women like this watch... I don't know why... LOL

I recommend it always: smart and classy...and sporty if you want. Almost perfect

ALE

 

[ALE7575]

Hi delusion
I have remove the pics, because it is not allowed to post QC pics without found flaws or some general interesting comments.

BTW- The watch is OK. Buy it, you will not get disappointed. You will tell me it soon

ALE

 

[delusion78]

Hi Ale,

Thanks for the heads up, apologies for my mistake on the QCs ....

Cant wait to receive it.. thanks for all the great advise !


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