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Help - Cannot Find These Two PAM Models

timeonmyside

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I found these images on the PAM strap page here. But have searched the PAM Guide and cannot pinpoint which models they actually are. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

PAM #1 I like is a LUMINOR / GMT / SANDWICH / 8 DAYS....

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PAM #2 I like is a RADIOMIR / GMT / SANDWICH / GOLD HANDS / BLUE DOT... possibly gold trim like PAM309 or PAM322

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Cant seem to figure which models these are!
 

nalomb

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The Luminor looks like a 275 -- GMT movement in a 50's case with 8 day power reserve. The Radiomir looks like a 316 with the super cool P.2005 tourbillon movement.
 

timeonmyside

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So for the 275 LUMINOR i'm really going after the GMT aspect & the sandwich look, but also like the overall busy look too. But definitely GMT and sandwich on the Luminor.

And the 316 RADIOMIR I love the GMT, the gold hands and sandwich, and heck... the blue dot.
 

timeonmyside

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Seems kinda crazy but I wonder if I cant get a hold of these models, if someone can mod them.
 

nalomb

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Much to my chagrin, we will probably never get a P.2005 replicated movement for the 316, so take that out. Your best bet on that is to create a fantasy model combining two or more models. If you like the gold hands and sandwich, go for the 346. Word on the street is the shark tooth power reserve is being better repped later this year -- still no confirmation on that to my knowledge. The "busy" dials are harder to rep -- the equation of time model or the 365 is actually a decent rep although the majority of the functions do not work.
 

timeonmyside

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Man, I'm just really digging a Radiomir with GMT. The 309 and 322 dont have GMT.

On a side note, you know you have watch shock when you SWEAR that you saw one of the minute hands tick in a photo you are looking at :)
 

nalomb

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Ha! I know the feeling.. There's nothing that says you can't take a GMT movement and hands set and put them on a Radiomir dial in a Radiomir case. Consider it bespoke horology.


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timeonmyside

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Ha! I know the feeling.. There's nothing that says you can't take a GMT movement and hands set and put them on a Radiomir dial in a Radiomir case. Consider it bespoke horology.

So this is possible I would think. At least get close to what Im looking for. By putting a few diff parts together. Theres no way I would consider doing it myself. I would royally screw things up :)
 

hughesj

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Ummm guys, that first one is a 311... Brown dial, ti case
 

hughesj

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yeah. too complex of a movement. it takes a lot to make a chrono work with only one pusher, then add a gmt, then add a power reserve, then add a independently moving hour hand.
 

Ruski91

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yeah. too complex of a movement. it takes a lot to make a chrono work with only one pusher, then add a gmt, then add a power reserve, then add a independently moving hour hand.

Yeah ... reps are still trying to get Chronos down pat without wobbly hands @3. One battle at a time :)

But in all seriousness, those are very complicated movements which i do not believe we will be seeing in the near future. Never say never as we have seen drastic improvements in movements over the last few years (ex. SC p.3000) but still i think we are far from seeing those in action
 

timeonmyside

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Frankly, Id be happy happy with a luminor sandwich GMT. I just cant decide which one.

As for the 316, i think a couple watches could be modded together to get what I want. Is there a section or persons I can contact here who do modding?