Help 1st rep purchase, carbotech or bronzo

[w4kz]

Hello everyone.. been a while since i lurked here and now the time has come to shout out for help..

I am going to make a major purchase and the one that i am going to buy is a bronzo or carbotech.. have a local deal here but the thing is both of the seller didn ot know which factory made the watch.

Please help me which version of both watch?

Bronzo:

Carbotech:

Thanks everyone

 

[chris3007]

382, because I know many 616 with broken lug ends. The carbon case it's not very good...


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[w4kz]

382, because I know many 616 with broken lug ends. The carbon case it's not very good...


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Wow broken? Never heard about this before.. thanks for the info..

Still welcome any other comment..

 

[Zeinharis]

Hello everyone.. been a while since i lurked here and now the time has come to shout out for help..

I am going to make a major purchase and the one that i am going to buy is a bronzo or carbotech.. have a local deal here but the thing is both of the seller didn ot know which factory made the watch.

Please help me which version of both watch?

Bronzo:

Carbotech:

Thanks everyone [emoji4]

Siapa sellernya bro kalo boleh tau?


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[psapas]

Pam382 seagull kw, recent batch has issue with too thin crown. Also, my one got the problem with the pearl that it's not in right position. So, please check on your QC before purchase....Anyway on the pic, it's the new batch with thin crown, so not sure if it's ok for you or not.


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[psapas]

On the pic, 382 is kw seagull (v3) new batch (error thin crown) and 616 is zf (blue lume)


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[w4kz]

On the pic, 382 is kw seagull (v3) new batch (error thin crown) and 616 is zf (blue lume)


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Thanks for the comments, [MENTION=71332]psapas[/MENTION].. as a newbie i really did know anything about how to differentiate a pam version..

A thin crown? Will it affect the watch performance? For example water resistance?

 

[psapas]

Not sure about water resistance buddy, but it's not accuracy obviously when compare with the gen. The previous batch of 382 kw seagull was fantastic, the best version actually. So, may be just wait for a better version or batch IMO....Anyway, if it's ok for you and the deal is good, may be it's ok buddy. The watch is still great, real bronze.

For zf carbotech, it's very light weight, but many said that though this version was newer, correct pattern and may be correct lume color (no one confirm yet), it's still not good as kw version in some parts (but someone is still prefer this zf). All versions are still far from gen in the detail of carbotech liner, anyway. To confirm this, you can ask the seller to show lume, if it's blue then it's zf surely. The material is very special buddy, I owned it too but already sold it, still regret as I like the material (but it feels easy to be broken a bit, very light).

Both are very good watch and have special material, if the price is good you might ok with them, they are good watches if you don't care much about gen-like or the perfect batch (newer batch might be worse who knows haha). The pearl on 382 looks ok in the pic. It's depends on your own preference now, black-light weight or vintage-gold.


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[w4kz]

[MENTION=71332]psapas[/MENTION] thank you so much! After you mentioned it red the thread about bronzo and yes some people prefer older batch like you said..

but i have to say the deal is too good to be tru for both watch.. the seller ask 283 usd for each.. as far as i red the market price for pre-owned 382 is high like 400 usd and for 616 is around 350usd..

I think i will take the bronzo.. you and [MENTION=70278]chris3007[/MENTION] said the carbotech material is prone to high pressure..

Thanks again

 

[psapas]

It's my pleasure buddy, and Im glad that I could help you my friend. About the price, I bought new 382 kw seagull last month (same batch) about $340 as there was promotion for all pam from kw factory buddy. It's good deal anyway and the pearl of the watch is better than mine haha want to sell my one too.....


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[mysterio]

If you're going to get a PAM616, don't buy a ZF. As far as I know, the ZF came with the incorrect blue lume (you can't see it in daylight obviously, it looks the same as the KW/V6F). That's a ZF clearly because of the millesimation at the back (the KW/V6F does not have it). My personal experience with the 616 has been good, no breakage so far. But YMMV.

 

[w4kz]

If you're going to get a PAM616, don't buy a ZF. As far as I know, the ZF came with the incorrect blue lume (you can't see it in daylight obviously, it looks the same as the KW/V6F). That's a ZF clearly because of the millesimation at the back (the KW/V6F does not have it). My personal experience with the 616 has been good, no breakage so far. But YMMV.

[MENTION=12819]mysterio[/MENTION] thanks for the info my friend.. i really a newbie in rep game.. used to be a saint but the heaven said something about how good rep nowadays! Now i have turned to the dark side and learn a lot about pam rep thanks again i will try to look for kw version for 616

 

[mysterio]

@mysterio thanks for the info my friend.. i really a newbie in rep game.. used to be a saint but the heaven said something about how good rep nowadays! Now i have turned to the dark side and learn a lot about pam rep ? thanks again i will try to look for kw version for 616

No worries, that's what experience is for, to share with others.

 

[coyote77]

Hi bro nice to meet you


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[mysterio]

Hi bro nice to meet you


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To whom are you referring to? I hate to be presumptuous. :lol: