H factory vs N factory confusion on quality

[pearlvsn]

I have been speaking to different TD's about what pam111 to go with and which factory to go with. A few have said they don't sell the N factory ones because their so called claimed super lume is not real super lume. Is this true?

A few have also said that the N factory used to be one of the best but the factory is having a lot of issues with after sales service and spares back up.

Is it better to go with the top end H factory N serial or the N factory latest V3 when it comes to pam111?

 

[cihanbehen]

I bought pam 111 from aliexpress h-series 2 weeks ago, ?t looks great in hand. I didnt know this forum. I am thinking to buy better version.Noob v3 is the best but it is dated from 2012-2013.You can find one with v4 case. I suggest to wait for full v4 version or you can buy 005 v4 or kw 127 as a first replica.

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[pearlvsn]

I bought pam 111 from aliexpress h-series 2 weeks ago, ?t looks great in hand. I didnt know this forum. I am thinking to buy better version.Noob v3 is the best but it is dated from 2012-2013.You can find one with v4 case. I suggest to wait for full v4 version or you can buy 005 v4 or kw 127 as a first replica.

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So noob v3 is better than the h factory generally speaking?

 

[cihanbehen]

Yes, check pam guide - sticky post at the top. There is a comparison there. Search for pam 111

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[ALE7575]

So noob v3 is better than the h factory generally speaking?

It is not as easy as you are saying

Noob is now changing V3 to a better and more accurate V4 caseset. But not always you will receive a complete V4 caseset. You could receive a V4 watch but usually with V3 crystal, CG lever (always), V3 "fat" crown (almost always) .. etc... Sometimes you receive a transition caseset form V3 to V4.
A complete Noob V4 watch would be the best available option so far, but , as above commented, that rarely happens.

H maker is also in a transition period from "old" to "new" cases and the production is a bit inconsistent, with nice cases and a bit worse ones. Besides the final and "correct" H maker caseset has always worse CG than Noob version and the edges of the case are sharper than gen and Noob, the bezel has also sharper transition edges with a higher base enhanced by the sharpness of the transition edge.

Therefore not all depend on the version at this moment, and we need be carefull with QC pics and we have to assume we can receive a no completely "new" watch

The best option so far?? maybe waiting for the complete V4 Noob watch

Unfortunately nobody knows when that will happen

ALE

 

[pearlvsn]

It is not as easy as you are saying

Noob is now changing V3 to a better and more accurate V4 caseset. But not always you will receive a complete V4 caseset. You could receive a V4 watch but usually with V3 crystal, CG lever (always), V3 "fat" crown (almost always) .. etc... Sometimes you receive a transition caseset form V3 to V4.
A complete Noob V4 watch would be the best available option so far, but , as above commented, that rarely happens.

H maker is also in a transition period from "old" to "new" cases and the production is a bit inconsistent, with nice cases and a bit worse ones. Besides the final and "correct" H maker caseset has always worse CG than Noob version and the edges of teh case are sharper than gen and Noob, the bezel has also sharper transition edgeswith a higher base enhabced by the sharpness of the transition edge.

Therefore not all depend on the version at this moment and we need be carefull with QC pics and have to assume we can receive a no completely "new" watch

The best option so far?? maybe waiting for the complete V4 Noob watch

Unfortunately nobody knows when that will happen

ALE

Is it safe to go with toro bravo for his pam111 noob v3? I've read great things about him and that watch.

 

[ALE7575]

Is it safe to go with toro bravo for his pam111 noob v3? I've read great things about him and that watch.

If you ask Toro for a PAM 111 V3, usually you will receive a PAM 111 with V4 case and CG. With V4 crystal. With V3 CG lever (this is always the same) and with some luck with "slim" Crown V4.

Toro is one of the best dealers he is usually working with the last versions, but you (neither he) can assure nothing when we are talking about reps

ALE

 

[pearlvsn]

If you ask Toro for a PAM 111 V3, usually you will receive a PAM 111 with V4 case and CG. With V4 crystal. With V3 CG lever (this is always the same) and with some luck with "slim" Crown V4.

Toro is one of the best dealers he is usually working with the last versions, but you (neither he) can assure nothing when we are talking about reps

ALE

Once I get the watch can I post the pics here? What type of close ups do you need to let me know more about it?

 

[ALE7575]

Once I get the watch can I post the pics here? What type of close ups do you need to let me know more about it?

There is a thread about PAM 111 where the QC pics are allowed. Go there
PAM 111 N “V3” Noob - Discussion–Compilation of data, Wristshots, QC pics
https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb...sion%96Compilation-of-data-Wristshots-QC-pics

ALE

 

[pearlvsn]

There is a thread about PAM 111 where the QC pics are allowed. Go there
PAM 111 N “V3†Noob - Discussion–Compilation of data, Wristshots, QC pics
https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb...sion%96Compilation-of-data-Wristshots-QC-pics

ALE

Not qc pics, but can I post the pics here when I get the watch in hand?

 

[ALE7575]

Not qc pics, but can I post the pics here when I get the watch in hand?

YES
Of course. No problem.
They will be welcome

ALE

 

[pearlvsn]

YES
Of course. No problem.
They will be welcome

ALE

Thanks just wanted to be sure.

 

[pearlvsn]

YES
Of course. No problem.
They will be welcome

ALE

Ale, Here is the PAM111 noob v3 from Toro Bravo. I also purchased an awesome black leather Bakeka strap. The size is 24/22, 115/75 just like the rep strap. Is the strap length ok? I'm using hole #3. I normally use hole #2 for watches which fits better, but since the strap is thick it can't reach that far.

Overall what are your thoughts on the Toro Bravo noob v3 quality from the N factory?

 

[mysterio]

Noob PAM111 N V3 quality is the same from toro as is from Ryan, Ken, Angus, Francis, Sead or whomever TD you get your watches from. That said, good looking watch.

 

[pearlvsn]

Noob PAM111 N V3 quality is the same from toro as is from Ryan, Ken, Angus, Francis, Sead or whomever TD you get your watches from. That said, good looking watch.

Thanks! What do you think of the watch strap length? I was sent a 115/75 strap. Isn't standard 125/75? I may be wrong, but doesn't it look too short?

 

[mysterio]

Thanks! What do you think of the watch strap length? I was sent a 115/75 strap. Isn't standard 125/75? I may be wrong, but doesn't it look too short?

Previously the standard strap length of the gen is 115/75. That has since been updated to 125/75. But of course rep makers wouldn't change. hehehe

 

[ALE7575]

As commented by mysterio all Noob V3 are the same from all dealers
Yours is OK
Strap length is a taste matter, for me yours is very nice and correct

ALE

 

[pearlvsn]

As commented by mysterio all Noob V3 are the same from all dealers
Yours is OK
Strap length is a taste matter, for me yours is very nice and correct

ALE

When you say the watch is OK. What if anything is wrong with it?

So you think the strap length looks ok on my wrist? I ask because it looks too short. I just don't get why the rep strap fit better then this custom strap if they are the same size.

 

[pearlvsn]

The rep strap is next to the Bakeka strap I just got back. I can see the issue now. Look at the holes. They are both. 24/22, 115/75.

 

[trailboss99]

As three people have told you the strap looks fine mate, the answer won't change no matter how many times you ask.
And as for the watch if you are happy with it then its fine. You are the person that needs to be pleased not us. If you are worried about what other people think this may not be the hobby for you.


Also I'm not sure what is going on here, four days ago you are asking questions about which model to order and yet apparently now both it and a strap have been ordered and delivered?