H-Fac PAM 243 bezel question

[jpchub]

I am not sure if this has already been discussed. I did do a search, but couldn't get an answer.
I removed the bezel of my 243 to realign the 15, 30 and 45 markers. This was easy and quick to do. However my bezel can also move clockwise. It could do this before I removed my bezel. So I couldn't find a way to secure the bezel to the bottom part that turns.
Should this be glued together? I cant think that is the correct way.
If anyone knows the correct way, it will be greatly appreciated.

 

[jpchub]

not a single person? lol. Oh well, blue lock tite it is then....

 

[jpchub]

.....blue threadlock did the trick. Bezel now secure to the moving clicky thingy majic.

 

[Martycus]

IIRC, there's a spring / wire with a short stub at a 90-degree angle. On the case is small opening to accommodate the stub. The bezel snaps over an opening and circling the opening are with lips forming grooves around the entire opening (hard to describe, but when you see it , you'll understand).

So with that in mind, the wire is inserted into the small opening and the long part of wire is then wrapped counter clockwise in the bottom groove beneath the lip.

If the wire is wrapped clockwise or not entirely in the lowest groove, the bezel will continuously spin or worse jam the bezel. The end of the wire that's protruding in the counterclockwise direction is what stops the bezel from turning clockwise. It's what makes the click sound when you turn the bezel.

 

[dadog13]

Martycus is it the same config as this one? I am just trying to figure out how to assemble bcs the bezel was spinning on both sides and there was dental floss wrapped around (probably done by previous owner bcs I bought it 2nd hand)

 

[Martycus]

Hey V, it's been a minute, hope all is well ... yes its the same. are you able to get that wire any more "lower: so it's actually resting on the case? You see the saw teeth on the back of your bezel? The end of that wire needs to be aligned to the teeth. If it's turning freely, it means the wire end is either bent too far outwards or the wire is not seated low enough.

I've seen on some watches there's a lip that produces a groove but I can't see if there is one on yours. With the bezel installed, the mechanics of turning the bezel counter clockwise, the open end of the wire will glide over the teeth (producing the clicking sound). But when you try and turn it clockwise, the end of the wire will jam into the saw teeth.

The hole for the wire on your 382 is at the 5-o'clock area, some watches will have it at 3, some at 9. It doesn't matter where but the mechanics are the same.

HTH dadog13

 

[dadog13]

Martycus thanks for the explanation/help!
I placed back the bezel spring and bezel sits nicely however my bezel still can be turned both ways. I am not sure what exactly is it about that doesn’t stop the bezel going clockwise. Could it be that the inner bezel teeth that should block the bezel from turning clockwise are “worn out” a little bit so they then to slip if force is applied?

 

[Martycus]

Hi V - re: Teeth - That's odd, the pictures show the teeth to be sharply angled so that wouldn't causing it. Speaking of teeth, Although your pictures show the back of the bezel and the teeth pointing to the left, I'm visualizing it when it's placed on the bezel, the teeth should be pointing to the right. If it's slipping you'd certainly feel that as it would make some contact, however slight.

I'm wondering instead if the wire is not protruding out enough to make contact with the teeth or it's protruding into the section below the teeth (in your pictures, assuming the teeth is at level 3, the section below it is level 2 and the bottom lip is level 1)?

Are you able to experiment by taking a can or better yet a piece of clear plastic, 47mm or larger in diameter and punching a small hole several mm from the edge and inserting the wire into it, then placing the bezel above it to see if the wire makes contact or if it's not fitting in properly? Nothing I know of will replicate the case because you'd still need to wrap the wire around the opening but hopefully this gives you an idea of what could be causing it not to catch.


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jpchub - I realize this is your post and your question is related to the 243 bezel but I hope you understand what we're talking about here could also be applicable to the 243. That said if you dont want this posted, I'll take this elsewhere.

 

[jpchub]

No problem. Thank you for this. My situation was different though. My bezel is a hollow piece. There was still a metal ring around the crystal that could turn and make a make clicks after I lifted my bezel off. So almost like my bezel is made up of two parts. So the two parts wasnt glued, or fixed together. When turning anit clock wise it would make the bottom part turn as well and it would click. When turning clockwise only the top part would turn.