GMT Master II, Replace DG3804 CHS

[Alfabeth]

On my last trip to Thailand I bought 2 different replicas, one of them was a GMT Master II, the best I could find. The quality is really impressive, especially in comparison to the others I could find. Even the rehaut engraving is alligned with the Minute Marks, and the Bezel has a nice quality with the Platinum look numbers, not painted like cheaper models. The accuracy of keeping the time is also good (After my adjustments).

The more expensive model even got a "Traveler GMT" movement with the CHS inside, not the "Office GMT" ICHS like the cheaper one.
But there also comes the problem. I believe the movement inside is the DG3804 CHS, which is supposed to be a timebomb.
The thread where I got my information from was a couple of years old, maybe I´m lucky and it improved? Probably not.

Now I am thinking about what to do in case it fails since I´m very satisfied with everything else. I am thinking about these replacements:
1.) Miyota 9074
This would be my favorite, once its available for the public. Traveler GMT CHS.
2.) Seiko NH34 GMT
Cheap, quite accurate and reliable, unfortunately only ICHS, meaning I would have to replace the Hands.
3.) Shanghai 3285 Replica
Probably the best, option? But also the hightst costs
4.) DG3804 ICHS
But I rather take the Seiko instead

Now my final Question: Is the GMT Master II Case even compatible with these movements?
Maybe someone has experience with this issue and can recommend me something I maybe didn´t even think about.

Here a pic of the movement:

 

[Feefo]

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[Reaps]

Save your money and dont invest anymore into it

Wear your replica for fun until it breaks

Then buy a new Clean GMT

Done

 

[Alfabeth]

Save your money and dont invest anymore into it

Wear your replica for fun until it breaks

Then buy a new Clean GMT

Done

I honestly don't feel like a clean GMT would be notable better then the one I currently own. So I don't feel comfortable spending 500€, only to have a better movement.

 

[Reaps]

I honestly don't feel like a clean GMT would be notable better then the one I currently own. So I don't feel comfortable spending 500€, only to have a better movement.

Post your current replica. Not to be mean but the Clean GMT is the cream of the crop. You may not notice the differences but they exist.

Anything with a DG2803 shitter in it is not even a mid tier replica.

 

[Reaps]

I honestly don't feel like a clean GMT would be notable better then the one I currently own. So I don't feel comfortable spending 500€, only to have a better movement.

Also. Here is why. Swapping movements is very troublesome and more annoying than you think. Very rarely is a movement a direct 1:1 swap.

1. The hands, dial, for your watch may not fit new movement.

2. The case of your watch may not fit the new movement and have stem height issues.

The new movement runs you $100 conservatively. Casework, new dials, hands, etc, may cost anywhere from 100-250, if you can even find someone to do it for you. So you just spent 350 to swap a movement out when you could just have saved that money to buy a top tier GMT.

Up to you. Your money your choice.

 

[Alfabeth]

Thanks for your honest Reply. I would be willing to spend arround 100€. Seems like it wouldn't be too easy to find a replacement.
I believe I read in this forum that my movement could be replaced by the 3804 ICHS, using the different spacer and new hour+ GMT hand. If I understand it right, the other movements are not quite an option.

Here some pictures. Maybe you can tell me the CF is actually much better than mine and I really need to get it

Also. Here is why. Swapping movements is very troublesome and more annoying than you think. Very rarely is a movement a direct 1:1 swap.

1. The hands, dial, for your watch may not fit new movement.

2. The case of your watch may not fit the new movement and have stem height issues.

The new movement runs you $100 conservatively. Casework, new dials, hands, etc, may cost anywhere from 100-250, if you can even find someone to do it for you. So you just spent 350 to swap a movement out when you could just have saved that money to buy a top tier GMT.

Up to you. Your money your choice.

Thanks for your honest Reply. I would be willing to spend arround 100€.

I believe I read in this forum that my movement could be replaced by the 3804 ICHS, using the different spacer and new hour+ GMT hand. If I understand it right, the other movements are not quite an option, unfortunately.

Here some pictures. Maybe you can tell me the CF is actually much better than mine and I really need to get it

 

[Reaps]

Thanks for your honest Reply. I would be willing to spend arround 100€. Seems like it wouldn't be too easy to find a replacement.
I believe I read in this forum that my movement could be replaced by the 3804 ICHS, using the different spacer and new hour+ GMT hand. If I understand it right, the other movements are not quite an option.

Here some pictures. Maybe you can tell me the CF is actually much better than mine and I really need to get it



Thanks for your honest Reply. I would be willing to spend arround 100€.

I believe I read in this forum that my movement could be replaced by the 3804 ICHS, using the different spacer and new hour+ GMT hand. If I understand it right, the other movements are not quite an option, unfortunately.

Here some pictures. Maybe you can tell me the CF is actually much better than mine and I really need to get it

The rep you have isn't bad honestly. Wear it and enjoy it. But i would not sink any money into it.

But it's the minor details that make it inferior to Clean. The finishing is sub par, the rehaut is a clear giveaway, the filling of the bezel is not like gen

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[Alfabeth]

Thanks!

Yes it's not too bad. I first bought a bicolor sub, but the one having a worse quality was not very happy with it.

I guess there have to be some differences, other than the movement, considering the CF is an extra 400€...
But I read the CF has some issues with the Bezel, and I see on many pictures the rehaut letters are not aligned nicely to the dial minute indicators. That's very neat on my one which I like.

But I will see how long my movement lasts. Maybe I get lucky...