GMT Master II Bruce Wayne or Submariner?

[hannebambell]

Hi there,

I am currently looking for my first rep and I am torn between a couple of watches. I fell in love with the new “Bruce Wayne” and I like the GMT because it can be worn with a jubilee which looks somehow classier but I assume it is also more comfortable than the oyster strap. On the other hand, the Submariner is an icon (compared to the grey/black bezel of the GMT) and almost everyone likes and recognizes it. However, I have worn a shitter sub for a couple of times and the oyster didn’t feel comfortable on my wrist (because my little bone on the wrist is quite visible and my wrist quite skinny) and when I had the best “fit”, the crown stitched into my hand when I moved my hand up. That was really annoying and hurtful.

In terms of quality of the watches: For the Submariner I would go for the VSF which are supposed to be very flawless overall. Maybe the xtal, the date (in case it will be a date) and the gasket should be changed.

For the GMT, it gets a bit more complicated. I would prefer the Clean, but imho the bezel of the Bruce Wayne is the number 1 call out. The ARF seems to be a bit better, but both do not seem very similar to the gen. Especially the depth of the numbers seems to be off. So I guess I have to change that as well. Do you have any advice?

So basically I am torn between the GMT, Sub date and no date. The no date would be the cheapest option because not many things have to be changed.

Happy to receive any thoughts

 

[wildrage]

Hi there,

I am currently looking for my first rep and I am torn between a couple of watches. I fell in love with the new “Bruce Wayne” and I like the GMT because it can be worn with a jubilee which looks somehow classier but I assume it is also more comfortable than the oyster strap. On the other hand, the Submariner is an icon (compared to the grey/black bezel of the GMT) and almost everyone likes and recognizes it. However, I have worn a shitter sub for a couple of times and the oyster didn’t feel comfortable on my wrist (because my little bone on the wrist is quite visible and my wrist quite skinny) and when I had the best “fit”, the crown stitched into my hand when I moved my hand up. That was really annoying and hurtful.

In terms of quality of the watches: For the Submariner I would go for the VSF which are supposed to be very flawless overall. Maybe the xtal, the date (in case it will be a date) and the gasket should be changed.

For the GMT, it gets a bit more complicated. I would prefer the Clean, but imho the bezel of the Bruce Wayne is the number 1 call out. The ARF seems to be a bit better, but both do not seem very similar to the gen. Especially the depth of the numbers seems to be off. So I guess I have to change that as well. Do you have any advice?

So basically I am torn between the GMT, Sub date and no date. The no date would be the cheapest option because not many things have to be changed.

Happy to receive any thoughts

I've got a clean batman and the numbers seem pretty dead on to me. To be honest, I also have a cheap $160 submariner, and besides the plasticy movement, it looks pretty darn close to the Clean one I have. I think we are at a point that its just a matter of preference. For me, the GMT is more unique and fancy. I do think that the whole "GMT movement" and how to actually use it to read 2 timezones is pretty darn clunky and confusing - but its the same way on the Gen as well. No quickset feature can be annoying if you let your watch run down a lot. The submariner is a classic, but also somewhat common. Why don't you get both .

 

[natasjames]

I have both... buy 2 n wear either depending on your mood

 

[hannebambell]

Hey guys,

thanks for your replies. Well, I would love to have both and (I assume) like most of you, I could afford one or both as a gen. However, my lifestyle is not that fancy that all of my (close) friends would believe me when I have suddenly both. Also, I want to have a trustworthy “story” behind my purchase. Does anyone has more infos on the actual Bruce Wayne (besides the one thread that already seems to be dead).

I also thought about the Datejust, but here I would struggle with the size. Oh lord, why is it so hard. Sometimes it is easier when the RLX dealer calls you and decides for you which watch is ready to purchase

 

[Jossé]

Hey guys,

thanks for your replies. Well, I would love to have both and (I assume) like most of you, I could afford one or both as a gen. However, my lifestyle is not that fancy that all of my (close) friends would believe me when I have suddenly both. Also, I want to have a trustworthy “story” behind my purchase. Does anyone has more infos on the actual Bruce Wayne (besides the one thread that already seems to be dead).

I also thought about the Datejust, but here I would struggle with the size. Oh lord, why is it so hard. Sometimes it is easier when the RLX dealer calls you and decides for you which watch is ready to purchase

No matter what you choose, I wouldn’t recommend lying to your close friends if they actually happen to ask about your watch. Just my two cents..

But to answer your question I have both a Bruce Wayne from Clean and a Submariner from VSF. The Bruce Wayne has a couple of obvious flaws that even I, with a total lack of attention to detail, can see. The Submariner, on the other hand—in my eyes, it’s as good as they come. The no-date is even better.

 

[hannebambell]

No matter what you choose, I wouldn’t recommend lying to your close friends if they actually happen to ask about your watch. Just my two cents..

But to answer your question I have both a Bruce Wayne from Clean and a Submariner from VSF. The Bruce Wayne has a couple of obvious flaws that even I, with a total lack of attention to detail, can see. The Submariner, on the other hand—in my eyes, it’s as good as they come. The no-date is even better.

Thank you! That is what I read everywhere that you can’t go wrong with the Submariner (especially the no date). All other watches seem to have flaws and yes, the GMT bezel bothers me the most right know, although I would prefer having a jubilee bracelet. Maybe the DJ would be a solution but also there the CF and VSF have flaws. As I said, the Oyster was quite uncomfortable, that was my problem…

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Hey guys,

thanks for your replies. Well, I would love to have both and (I assume) like most of you, I could afford one or both as a gen. However, my lifestyle is not that fancy that all of my (close) friends would believe me when I have suddenly both. Also, I want to have a trustworthy “story” behind my purchase. Does anyone has more infos on the actual Bruce Wayne (besides the one thread that already seems to be dead).

I also thought about the Datejust, but here I would struggle with the size. Oh lord, why is it so hard. Sometimes it is easier when the RLX dealer calls you and decides for you which watch is ready to purchase

If they are your close friends, dont be a dick and just tell em its a rep. They will also be fascinated about how close those watches are.

 

[natasjames]

Thank you! That is what I read everywhere that you can’t go wrong with the Submariner (especially the no date). All other watches seem to have flaws and yes, the GMT bezel bothers me the most right know, although I would prefer having a jubilee bracelet. Maybe the DJ would be a solution but also there the CF and VSF have flaws. As I said, the Oyster was quite uncomfortable, that was my problem…

Many have said.... every rep has its own flaws, it is how much u can tolerate the flaws.

 

[TonyMonatana44]

No matter what you choose, I wouldn’t recommend lying to your close friends if they actually happen to ask about your watch. Just my two cents..

But to answer your question I have both a Bruce Wayne from Clean and a Submariner from VSF. The Bruce Wayne has a couple of obvious flaws that even I, with a total lack of attention to detail, can see. The Submariner, on the other hand—in my eyes, it’s as good as they come. The no-date is even better.

What are the flaws on your GMT? Rehaut/bezel? That is what I see most often being the flaw. The rehaut isn't as polished as the Gen, the bezel alignment is off, and the rehaut rolex letters aren't aligned with the dial indicators.

 

[Jossé]

What are the flaws on your GMT? Rehaut/bezel? That is what I see most often being the flaw. The rehaut isn't as polished as the Gen, the bezel alignment is off, and the rehaut rolex letters aren't aligned with the dial indicators.

Both the rehaut and bezel alignment are good on mine, at least well within my standards. The biggest "flaw" is the color of the bezel. The grey is basically too dark. But personally, this is something I never notice or think about; the color really depends on the lighting around you anyway.

It’s a fantastic watch, and the quality is top-notch. If you want one, go for it. You won’t regret it. But don’t buy it if the only thing you're after is gen-likeness.

 

[TonyMonatana44]

Both the rehaut and bezel alignment are good on mine, at least well within my standards. The biggest "flaw" is the color of the bezel. The grey is basically too dark. But personally, this is something I never notice or think about; the color really depends on the lighting around you anyway.

It’s a fantastic watch, and the quality is top-notch. If you want one, go for it. You won’t regret it. But don’t buy it if the only thing you're after is gen-likeness.

Gotcha. I was planning on buying the Bruce Wayne but ended up going with the GMT Master II Sprite since the Bruce Wayne was out of stock almost everywhere.

I wonder if the same can be said for the Sprite bezel as you've mentioned. Not sure if Clean factory bezels are somewhat better than other factories. My Clean Batman bezel is a lot better than my ARF in my opinion.

 

[Jossé]

Gotcha. I was planning on buying the Bruce Wayne but ended up going with the GMT Master II Sprite since the Bruce Wayne was out of stock almost everywhere.

I wonder if the same can be said for the Sprite bezel as you've mentioned. Not sure if Clean factory bezels are somewhat better than other factories. My Clean Batman bezel is a lot better than my ARF in my opinion.

In my opinion, Clean is usually the best. I'm sure you're going to be happy with your purchase

 

[BoseWire800]

Im also thinking about getting the Bruce Wayne. Saw here in real life today - in my opinion the best watch for day to day use. Pepsi is too agressive, especially in the business context

 

[hannebambell]

Indeed, the Gen Bruce Wayne with a jubilee looks sooooo amazing! But as I said, the Clean bezel is the most obvious call out imo and that is currently my main problem with the watch. The depth of the numbers is completely off and the ARF looks way better, but still not like gen. And as a good friend has a gen GMT (black bezel) I couldn’t wear it next to him. And I assume that it is currently hard getting a gen Bruce Wayne bezel.

 

[TonyMonatana44]

Indeed, the Gen Bruce Wayne with a jubilee looks sooooo amazing! But as I said, the Clean bezel is the most obvious call out imo and that is currently my main problem with the watch. The depth of the numbers is completely off and the ARF looks way better, but still not like gen. And as a good friend has a gen GMT (black bezel) I couldn’t wear it next to him. And I assume that it is currently hard getting a gen Bruce Wayne bezel.

I'm sure they'll straighten it out in the future with a new version of the bezel.

The pepsi was way off for the longest time until the latest versions from Clean. They're sort of off depending on which lighting/angle you view it at, but it's not as bad as they were before.

Hardest part now is waiting for them to update it.

 

[FastCar23]

Anyone having problems with the CF GMT II bezel falling off? My bezel fell off, I was able to save the bezel, but I'm missing something inside the bezel spins freely. Does anyone know where I can purchase the missing part?

 

[TonyMonatana44]

Anyone having problems with the CF GMT II bezel falling off? My bezel fell off, I was able to save the bezel, but I'm missing something inside the bezel spins freely. Does anyone know where I can purchase the missing part?

Use fishline.

 

[hannebambell]

I'm sure they'll straighten it out in the future with a new version of the bezel.

The pepsi was way off for the longest time until the latest versions from Clean. They're sort of off depending on which lighting/angle you view it at, but it's not as bad as they were before.

Hardest part now is waiting for them to update it.

Yeah, I also assume we simply have to wait…

 

[TheBigNasty]

I have both. Bruce Wayne on Jub from Clean. Great looking watch and my friends cant tell the difference until I tell them. Only problem is the bracelet is too small from the factory for large wrists, mine is 8.25inches.

Also have VSF Sub w/date ”Starbucks”. It is perfect and the glidelock helps fit my wrist! The VSF subs are hard to beat. Look and feel are right on and they really are NWBIG. I think my next plan is to just buy all the VSF versions of subs .. Can’t go wrong honestly with a VSF Sub!

Best of luck!