GMT 16750 Vintage dial with 3186 movement

[ZX_RR]

I have purchased a 16750 with vintage dial from InTime, I am waiting for QC. I saw they offered the watch with a 3186 movement so decided to spend extra $$ for what I understand is a superior movement. The alternative would have been a 2836 movement.

GMT-Master 16750 SS BP Edition Blue/Red Bezel Vintage Markers A2836 - InTimeWatch

GMT-Master 16750 SS BP Edition Blue/Red Bezel Vintage Markers A2836

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I am having second thoughts and wanted to get members' view on the movement choice; I am concerned that 3186 is too thick for a 16750 case and would require adjustment / make it bulkier. Any views on the 16750 case / 3186 movement combo?

I wanted to also check if anyone has purchased this replica from InTime and what views they may have on the overall result/looks out of the box, in particular the dial - whether this requires changing for a closer match with Gen.

Finally, I have ordered a blue bezel insert from ewatchparts to convert watch into a Blueberry.

 

[mclarendude]

It might say 16750 but that is actually a 1675. 16750 would have a glossy dial.

AFAIK, the 1675 reps do not come with 3186 movements as they would not be accurate with their hand positions on the handstack.

There are more threads on that subject on the Rolex section here.

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They might be offering you a 16710 which has a 3186 movement which is correct. I would double check or wait for them to send you QC pictures.

 

[KJ2020]

The link you posted does indeed show a 1675 (BP) case, which would also be accurate for a 16750 as that case did not change from the 1675. However the BP 1675 case is not very accurate to gen. The BP side profile does not have the right curves and the CGs are crazy skinny. The BP acrylic crystal is correct for a 16750, however the rivet bracelet is not. The 16750 was only offered with oyster or jubilee. The BP dial coronet is wrong (affectionately known as "frogfoot" due to the outer spires being shorter) - this type of coronet never appeared on a gen GMT dial.

Your mention of this model being available with a 3186 is the first I've heard of it but if Ryan says so I would believe him. BP does make a 16710 case with a 3186 movement, you might want to verify that the case will stay the same. The 3186 has the hour hand on the bottom, which is correct for a 16750. As pictured in the link, that 16750 has the GMT hand on the bottom, which is not correct for model.

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I did a blueberry in a 16710 case, if you want to see what that looks like.

 

[TerryRobot]

Also if wanting a vintage rep the 1675 is in the gen world not all that many about and not cheap by all accounts as it was the early model GMT, yes it could have been refurbed by an RSC but to make it look new but the lack of patina and general case scratching etc would make them look far to new, there are one on sale from time to time form some the watchmakers and modders on here which have been aged to look much more in keeping, Im not saying dont go for one but, its worth doing as much research as you can on the differences either in these forums or google, you will begin to see some very sublt differences. A Vintage Rolex is not like an old watch they are like antiques or artwork and often fetch high prices at auctions to collectors if it was one handed down through the family then it would most certainly have wear to it.

Better off picking a later model 16710 with a VR 3186 from BP, you can tone the chamfers won on them using some light sand paper (its pretty easy the aim is ust to take the shine off so they are less noticed and light catching) the movement, dial and inserts are pretty good and the case is a no holes later model which does match the Swiss Made dial, The only downside on the BP is the bezel set up its not gen like and can be a little bit sticky, that said most wont use it and it does work it just doesnt click all that well, but this does depend on the QC of the build at the time.

Good luck

 

[ZX_RR]

Thank you both for the feedback which was very informative.

As suggested I have queried with Intime and they swiftly responded stating the factory advised the model is in fact not available (the web listing is now changed and does not show any longer a 3186 option for the BP 1675 case.

They offered A2836 movement instead which I understand from other posts most people have in these cases. Looks ok this solution.

I am not overly concerned with the case being slightly different from Gen. My main concern is the dial, specifically 1) the ‘frog foot’, 2) the thick lumen.

I am planning to swap the dial, I see members used Mochacha, any other suggestions?
Does anyone know if the 1675 and 16750 dials available in the market (diameter 27.3mm?) fit the BP case / A2836 movement well or any dimension issues?

Effectively I would have a BP 1675 case with A2836 movement, [Mochacha] dial, and blueberry bezel (fat font serifs version). How does it sound?

 

[themaxx25]

I am planning to swap the dial, I see members used Mochacha, any other suggestions?
Does anyone know if the 1675 and 16750 dials available in the market (diameter 27.3mm?) fit the BP case / A2836 movement well or any dimension issues?

Effectively I would have a BP 1675 case with A2836 movement, [Mochacha] dial, and blueberry bezel (fat font serifs version). How does it sound?

Bubbling this back up to the top.

 

[bowtiefanatc]

BP dials tend to be slightly larger than gen spec if memory serves correct.

Like most Rolex models there’s a touch of crossover with dials. The 1675 and 16750 shared the same case and dial for the first year or so.

You could do a mochacha or yuki 1675 dial if you want a painted style. You will have to either reposition the dial feet or just adhere the dial to the movement.

 

[bowtiefanatc]

I’m going to try to make a 16750 with a Milk case.

 

[Teamdsi]

What is a Milk Case?? I’ve heard of it before but not sure I’ve seen one

 

[bowtiefanatc]

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[Teamdsi]

Thank you so much @bowtiefanatc that was some great info

 

[bowtiefanatc]

Thank you so much @bowtiefanatc that was some great info

Happy to help!

 

[diamondhands]

I’m going to try to make a 16750 with a Milk case.

Where will you source the dial?? I'm just starting to work on my build list.

 

[themaxx25]

Where will you source the dial?? I'm just starting to work on my build list.

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[bowtiefanatc]

I was thinking about Yuki. There’s also Mochacha. I might give yuki a try since I already have a Mochacha dial in my 16800.

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[Miloski]

I’m going to try to make a 16750 with a Milk case.

Great idea. I was thinking the same thing. Maybe with a 3186 with the DW switched to open 6 & 9.

 

[bowtiefanatc]

Great idea. I was thinking the same thing. Maybe with a 3186 with the DW switched to open 6 & 9.

Oh for sure open 6/9

It’s on the list of projects. I’m working on a 16700 and 16710 currently. After just finishing up my 16570 Explorer II

 

[Miloski]

Oh for sure open 6/9

It’s on the list of projects. I’m working on a 16700 and 16710 currently. After just finishing up my 16570 Explorer II

Is the 16570 case from BiVintage? If so, have you been happy with it?

 

[bowtiefanatc]

Is the 16570 case from BiVintage? If so, have you been happy with it?

Yeah, I got it from Bivintage. Quite happy with it. You do need to open the crown guards up ever so slightly. But being it’s the only option and it’s around 1/2 the price of some Viet cases. It’s a solid choice.

I decided to not use their bezel since I had a gen bezel which fit perfectly.

 

[Miloski]

Yeah, I got it from Bivintage. Quite happy with it. You do need to open the crown guards up ever so slightly. But being it’s the only option and it’s around 1/2 the price of some Viet cases. It’s a solid choice.

I decided to not use their bezel since I had a gen bezel which fit perfectly.

Nice job! Thank you for sending some pics. It looks great! I’ll get a case soon and get to work, I already have a gen 93250 bracelet.