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First replica ordered - QC help requested

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Hi everyone,

After reading ALE's excellent guide, I ordered my first replica (a 243 J by H Factory) and I'm expecting QC pics today.

My question is, what is your process for QCing a watch? Do you have a checklist? Do you compare it with other replica pics?

Looking forward to your replies.

Cyprus
 

nipe

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I guess this is what you call a 'long-time lurker'.
 

Cyprus

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I guess this is what you call a 'long-time lurker'.

Hi Nipe,

Yep. I was toying with the idea of a replica ages ago, and went for a Steinhart instead.

Back in the market for one now. Any advice on the above?

Kind regards,

Cyprus
 

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My suggestion is for you to spend some time reading. You've been a member since 2015 and only 2 messages? Yea, you need to do some reading before you buy. All the info you need to make a decision is right here in the reviews. Good luck.
 

Cyprus

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My suggestion is for you to spend some time reading. You've been a member since 2015 and only 2 messages? Yea, you need to do some reading before you buy. All the info you need to make a decision is right here in the reviews. Good luck.

I believe reading and writing are quite different things.

Happy to be corrected, though. :biggrin-new:
 

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C'mon, help that man :D
Personally, these are the most important things for me to check for:
  • Is it the right watch I ordered?
  • Are there scratches or even dents in the watch?
  • Is the dial correct? It's important to check for the dial print and the correct markers. Personally, I'd reject a watch if the Dial is not correct, since it is costly and time consuming to get a new one. But if only a few markers are a bit offset or something, I'd accept it - it's something that is easy to fix.
  • Check for any asymmetries on the dial
But QCing is something personal. I would never reject a watch if 1 or 2 markers are a little bit offset, but I know a lot Rolex-enthusiasts that first go for the solid end-links, and even if they are not 100% correct, they don't even care about the other things anymore, it's an instant reject :D
However, I hope that I could help you at least a bit.

EDIT: The most important thing is to read a lot about your ordered watch so you know, which typical problems exist.
 

Cyprus

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C'mon, help that man :D
Personally, these are the most important things for me to check for:
  • Is it the right watch I ordered?
  • Are there scratches or even dents in the watch?
  • Is the dial correct? It's important to check for the dial print and the correct markers. Personally, I'd reject a watch if the Dial is not correct, since it is costly and time consuming to get a new one. But if only a few markers are a bit offset or something, I'd accept it - it's something that is easy to fix.
  • Check for any asymmetries on the dial
But QCing is something personal. I would never reject a watch if 1 or 2 markers are a little bit offset, but I know a lot Rolex-enthusiasts that first go for the solid end-links, and even if they are not 100% correct, they don't even care about the other things anymore, it's an instant reject :D
However, I hope that I could help you at least a bit.

Thanks Cavemax,

That's what I wanted to know.

Kind regards,

Cyprus
 

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Most TDs check for defects before sending the photos to you, as it's also very troublesome for them to have to deal with disputes and returns or refunds. A subject not frequently talked about is how meticulous/anal should we be about quality control. The watches being thousands of miles away can often make us feel insecure about the condition of the watch. Does it work? Are there scratches/dents? I say dents are not acceptable. Hairline scratches are likely going to happen within the first week of you wearing the watch anyway, it is really worth exchanging over and over to find that 1 watch with absolutely no imperfections? When checking QC make sure to check a few places.
1. Rehaut / Bezel / Tachy alignments. This is most often the problem and are often hard/ impossible to fix. Rolex rehaut for example (google rehaut if you don't understand), is a part of the case, and a misaligned rehaut cannot be corrected unless sanded off and re-engraved. Bezels and Tachy rings are fixable with right tools, but if you need my advice, likely you won't know how. Easier to just make sure they're aligned.
2. Check for misprints. Misprints can come in the form of missing print, double print, smudged prints, or uneven prints. With the printing technologies today, this doesn't happen that much anymore, but because dials are often printed in stages, they may have forgotten a stage of printing, and therefore have missing print.
3. Check lugs and edges for dents and big scratches. These are places most easily damaged during transportation and manufacture. Although with strong materials such as SS, significant damages are unlikely.
 

Cyprus

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Cheers Nipe.

You and Cavemax have put me at ease a bit.

Most of the reading I have done on Paneria reps was written by ALE, who seems to be some sort of machine when it comes to spotting microscopic imperfections. :)

OK. So I'll look out for dial printing errors and major scratches or dents.

Will post photos when it arrives!

Cyprus
 

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Well in the end, if you are not sure about the QCs or some possible errors you may have found, feel free to ask for help!
I don't know ALE, but neither am I really interested in Panerai. But there are a few guys that are really specialized in spotting Gens or Replicas and it is not rare to find someone who has developed skills and knowledge for a particular brand. I know a lot users in the German section that can instantly tell a replica and gen Rolex apart and it is always good to get in touch with these guys. They are wandering watch-encyclopedias.
 

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Well in the end, if you are not sure about the QCs or some possible errors you may have found, feel free to ask for help!
I don't know ALE, but neither am I really interested in Panerai. But there are a few guys that are really specialized in spotting Gens or Replicas and it is not rare to find someone who has developed skills and knowledge for a particular brand. I know a lot users in the German section that can instantly tell a replica and gen Rolex apart and it is always good to get in touch with these guys. They are wandering watch-encyclopedias.

Well, it is nice to hear from someone who isn't into PAMs but wanders into our little section to peek in. :) Welcome! If there are these Rolex enthusiasts whom you refer to as wandering watch-encyclopedias and you don't know ALE, then let me tell you that in the world of Panerai reps, he is very much in that level of expertise. And to his credit, aside from possessing a tome of knowledge about these reps he has created what is universally regarded among PAM rep collectors and enthusiasts as the PAM Bible, which for the most part contains the distillation of the knowledge in this section into an easy to read thread (it is quite lengthy but you can search it to get the information for any model that you are looking for). ;)

@Cyprus, there are some new models which have specific threads and have been granted permission to post QC pics for everyone's reference. The PAM243 J is one such model and you can post the QC pics there for critique should anything bother you.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/th...someone-got-it-already-qc-pics-allowed.250657
 

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Well, it is nice to hear from someone who isn't into PAMs but wanders into our little section to peek in. :) Welcome! If there are these Rolex enthusiasts whom you refer to as wandering watch-encyclopedias and you don't know ALE, then let me tell you that in the world of Panerai reps, he is very much in that level of expertise. […]

Preferred brands can't stop a community from helping each other ;) It's probably due to my job that I have never come in touch with PAMs. Our office is being sponsored by AP and Rolex, so I have never experienced any other brand on my wrist, nor am I possessing any Replica. But since this is going to change - I really miss APs in my private life, so I had to order one - it could be possible that I just haven't found the right PAM for me, maybe it is already waiting for my order. I really should take a closer look :thinking:

However, I peeked at the pinned threads. Seems like ALE is a god amongst Paneristi and wrote some of the most important threads. I found his bible and skimmed through it. As soon as I find some spare time, this is going to be daily lecture. It is unbelievable how much effort this man puts into his and our hobby, and I bow down to his amazing work.
 

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QC pics have arrived!

Requested permission to post them in the other thread. :)

No need to ask for permission. If the thread says "QC Pics allowed" then as long as your picture matches the model of the watch specified, you may post at will. ;)
 

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No need to ask for permission. If the thread says "QC Pics allowed" then as long as your picture matches the model of the watch specified, you may post at will. ;)

Noted and posted!

Love to hear your feedback, mysterio.

Kind regards,

Cyprus