FGD dial

[Ozerov]

Good time friends!
I have one question: FGD dials are no longer available for sale?
I had been looking for his project dial 002/009 (a \ b), but it is too rarely on the Market.

 

[kilowattore]

A rolli dial is expensive, but it's the best you can get.

 

[txpam]

There is an FGD 002/009 dial for sale on RWG right now I think. And Kilowattore is correct the Rolli dials are amazing and expensive. I have a few of them and they rival some of my gen dial watches.

 

[Ozerov]

A rolli dial is expensive, but it's the best you can get.

you are correct sir. My budget does not handle it.


besides Rolly does not produce a \ b a series of dials, which is necessary for my project.

 

[Ozerov]

There is an FGD 002/009 dial for sale on RWG right now I think. And Kilowattore is correct the Rolli dials are amazing and expensive. I have a few of them and they rival some of my gen dial watches.

sir, if you want to sell one - please let me know.

 

[rhaug]

Does Rolli still produce and offer dials? I was under the impression that he'd been banned from many of the major communities, and his production had obscured. But would be quite interested in learning more if this isn't the case.


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[kilowattore]

He's active on rwg.cc and recently produced a few different dials, e.g. pre-v 201/a, 202/a, 203/a, 205/a, 218/a, pre-a 001 and 002, 036, 040 and a few others. If only I had enough funds I'd take them all

 

[Ozerov]

His dials are the best when the gen. But the price of doing construction budget is too big....

 

[rhaug]

Thanks, I'll see what I can learn. I find the dial is the biggest upgrade on the current super reps, the stock dials are the weakest part to my eye. Getting a really great rep dial sounds like a good investment. But if the price almost is like gen, perhaps that's worth saving for?


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[kilowattore]

Of course it would not be worth to spend 500 usd on a 111 dial since the cost of the build blows in the 1000 range and a gen can be found for 3500 new.
It is different when you consider to build a much more rare model like a pre-A or a pre-v, a gen can cost 20-30 thousand dollars up to 80,000.

 

[rhaug]

Of course it would not be worth to spend 500 usd on a 111 dial since the cost of the build blows in the 1000 range and a gen can be found for 3500 new.
It is different when you consider to build a much more rare model like a pre-A or a pre-v, a gen can cost 20-30 thousand dollars up to 80,000.

That makes sense, thanks for explaining.

Hope I'm not hijacking this thread, but what do you think is a sensible upgrade to a standard rep dial on say a 111 or 390? Is there such a thing?

 

[kilowattore]

390 could benefit from a gen dial and/or gen hands although the rep is pretty good already.
Tbh I would leave the 111 as is provider it gas the Y incabloc mod on the movement and it has the correct H3 hour wheel and CP set with flat and polished CP.
On both a new noob CG with correct inner shape of the lever and a bit of refinishing of case and CG would almost be all you need to do.

 

[Ozerov]

Of course it would not be worth to spend 500 usd on a 111 dial since the cost of the build blows in the 1000 range and a gen can be found for 3500 new.
It is different when you consider to build a much more rare model like a pre-A or a pre-v, a gen can cost 20-30 thousand dollars up to 80,000.

+1

$ 500 is really too expensive for a replica of the dial. Even if it is very high quality. 500-600 dollars is very often the budget of the entire project including the body, hands, etc.
Unfortunately Davidson in many replicas of the weakest link is the dials. Especially lately. Two years ago, some of its dials 5218-205a, 002B, 022a, 026a have been made are not bad. Because of the shortage of dials it reduced range and today we can not order some models (eg 027a).

 

[d4m.test]

+1

$ 500 is really too expensive for a replica of the dial. Even if it is very high quality. 500-600 dollars is very often the budget of the entire project including the body, hands, etc.
Unfortunately Davidson in many replicas of the weakest link is the dials. Especially lately. Two years ago, some of its dials 5218-205a, 002B, 022a, 026a have been made are not bad. Because of the shortage of dials it reduced range and today we can not order some models (eg 027a).

When considering a Rolli/FGD dial, it's best to not think in terms of Rep or Gen. This is a Swiss/German made collaboration, hand made in the same shops that create Panerai and other high end dials. The pad printing of the name is the last step after the dial is finished. Otherwise it would never be lumed by RC Tritec. I have held a genuine Pre-V dial valued at around $4000 right next to the Rolli/FGD dial and was floored at the realization that he does indeed use the exact same processes and methods to craft his dials: Bead Blasted brass plate, colored in an acid bath, not painted, lumed at RC Tritec, varnished with the same material as gen, etc... it's all true.

If budget is your concern, stick with reps. If owning a beautiful time piece is your desire. Then sell a few reps and own a true hand crafted masterpiece on par or better than genuine Panerai dials.

 

[Ozerov]

When considering a Rolli/FGD dial, it's best to not think in terms of Rep or Gen. This is a Swiss/German made collaboration, hand made in the same shops that create Panerai and other high end dials. The pad printing of the name is the last step after the dial is finished. Otherwise it would never be lumed by RC Tritec. I have held a genuine Pre-V dial valued at around $4000 right next to the Rolli/FGD dial and was floored at the realization that he does indeed use the exact same processes and methods to craft his dials: Bead Blasted brass plate, colored in an acid bath, not painted, lumed at RC Tritec, varnished with the same material as gen, etc... it's all true.

If budget is your concern, stick with reps. If owning a beautiful time piece is your desire. Then sell a few reps and own a true hand crafted masterpiece on par or better than genuine Panerai dials.

Thank you! I understand you. It is really wise advice.

 

[ALE7575]

Fortunately Grim and Kilo know what they are talking about
Nice to have you here

ALE

 

[d4m.test]

Thank you! I understand you. It is really wise advice.

Also it takes a bit of insanity as I usually buy genuine dials averaging in the 300-500 price range That honestly tells you how good I think these Rolli/FGD dials truly are.

 

[Knifemaker]

Very Well Said ALE!

Knife

 

[Ozerov]

up!