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Fake ? Pam 187 on EBay

Islander36

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Was trying to put an eBay link but guess I don’t know how to do that so I’ll just post some screen grabs. I have been looking at this 187 and I’m almost sure it’s not gen but thought I would get a few other opinions. The box is all wrong for this watch the sub dials seem to not have the circling. It’s been up a few weeks.
 

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Actually looking at it again the box may be ok,,
 

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Gen dial hands and CG
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That happens. I was eyeing a 1616 that I was sure was a rep. It wasn’t but your eyes play tricks on you when you look at everything with such skepticism.


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It’s scary how close the rep is — a few small details that no one but a few eggheads can call out. The blue on the “1000” is a good barometer much like the ”Daytona” text on a Rollie. The rep factories never seem to get it bright enough.

If it is gen, it’s very well taken care of. Very little aging on the tritium hands. Could have been replaced, but a tad suspicious ...


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On the 187 gen, I thought the lume on the hands and lume on the hour markers are supposed to be 2 different colors while on the rep they’re the same color? I’m not sure because I’ve never seen one in real life. With that being said, when I look on Instagram, a lot of them look to have them the same color,
 

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Looks gen to me. What’s the actual eBay link to the watch?

Never mind, I found it. Seller has 1400+ transaction and 100% feedback. I still think it’s gen.
 
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On the 187 gen, I thought the lume on the hands and lume on the hour markers are supposed to be 2 different colors while on the rep they’re the same color? I’m not sure because I’ve never seen one in real life. With that being said, when I look on Instagram, a lot of them look to have them the same color,
It a tritium dial I think the lighting unless the owner had it relume but doesn't look like it.

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On the 187 gen, I thought the lume on the hands and lume on the hour markers are supposed to be 2 different colors while on the rep they’re the same color? I’m not sure because I’ve never seen one in real life. With that being said, when I look on Instagram, a lot of them look to have them the same color,

The lume on the dial and the hands are different on the eBay ad.
 

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Actually looking at it again the box may be ok,,

The box is GEN. Docs looks to be correct, even the scrolled up certifications looks good.

The watch is a tad dirty, and the 1 on 15 looks a bit off.
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The 376 / 1000 is also a bit suspicious.


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The lume on the dial and the hands are different on the eBay ad.
Yes correct. It was already well established that the one in the ad was gen. I was asking in general because I had tried to use ig to look and compare as I tried to spot some differences.

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It’s scary how close the rep is — a few small details that no one but a few eggheads can call out. The blue on the “1000” is a good barometer much like the ”Daytona” text on a Rollie. The rep factories never seem to get it bright enough.

If it is gen, it’s very well taken care of. Very little aging on the tritium hands. Could have been replaced, but a tad suspicious ...


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Well some come pretty close on the blue