Existing model or fake error

[olig]

Hello,

I bought this Pam in turkey from a shop. I paid around 150 us.

However it's strange thing about it: it's a radionic case but it's a luminor GMT dial and movement.

Have you seen this? Or it's a fake fake?

 

[Hoermster]

Hey,
you forgot the pictures

 

[Hawker789]

Lol looking forward to the pics [emoji2][emoji2]


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[olig]

Added now

 

[shoes]

Interesting homage it gives me an idea


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[mysterio]

It's a PAM531 dial in a Radiomir case.

 

[olig]

It's a PAM531 dial in a Radiomir case.

This I could see.

But basically it's not any genuine watch like this?

 

[shoes]

No it's what I think the watch trade call a marriage watch.... an existing movement and dial hands etc are put into a case that is not original to the dial. It's a unique design but not one that is based on anything panerai made. You could buy a Luminor case set and a California dial and hands and movement and try to get two more reasonable watches from this?


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[lmmo]

It's a fantasy watch. You don't have a similar watch in Panerai catalogue.


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[mysterio]

This I could see.

But basically it's not any genuine watch like this?

Maybe next time I will reply just simply. It's a poor fake.

 

[thumbsarehandy]

It seems rather common.



Also paid $150.

 

[mysterio]

It seems rather common.

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Also paid $150.

Well fakes (like your PAM233 dial on a Radiomir case) are more common than replicas.

 

[SuperLory]

150 us is quite a robbery for these 2

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[thumbsarehandy]

Well fakes (like your PAM233 dial on a Radiomir case) are more common than replicas.

Many thanks, @mysterio! Appreciate the clarification
(Always thought of it as a PAM 268 with added GMT and "Luminor" instead of "Radiomir").

150 us is quite a robbery for these 2

It definitely is
(Mine was a purchase on a Chinese market before RWI)

 

[mysterio]

Many thanks, @mysterio! Appreciate the clarification
(Always thought of it as a PAM 268 with added GMT and "Luminor" instead of "Radiomir").
(Mine was a purchase on a Chinese market before RWI)

Well my "theory" would probably be more likely (the maker put a PAM233 dial, which is available but there are no good reps of this watch because of the movement, and used it on a Radiomir case). Rather than the maker modified a PAM268 dial (of which no rep exists even poor fakes) which would be an added cost for such a cheap watch.

Occam's Razor in play.

 

[thumbsarehandy]

Well my "theory" would probably be more likely (the maker put a PAM233 dial, which is available but there are no good reps of this watch because of the movement, and used it on a Radiomir case). Rather than the maker modified a PAM268 dial (of which no rep exists even poor fakes) which would be an added cost for such a cheap watch.

Occam's Razor in play.

Never questioned you in the slightest, mysterio (would never dream of querying one of the foremost Panerai experts)

What I meant was that I'm actually very thankful to you for taking the time to educate me on this watch and that it was erroneous of me to think it was a PAM268

 

[mysterio]

Never questioned you in the slightest, mysterio (would never dream of querying one of the foremost Panerai experts)

What I meant was that I'm actually very thankful to you for taking the time to educate me on this watch and that it was erroneous of me to think it was a PAM268

Oh, I did not think you were questioning me. But I want to make clear that you, well everyone for that matter, is free to correct me when I am wrong (and that isn't rare :lmao: ). It makes for a better PAM section because we work on making it accurate together.