ETA 2824 | All competitors/alternatives reviewed

[DR3M3L]

We all know the 2824 movement, it' designed by ETA and one of the most popular movements around. Ofcourse the Chinese made a clone of it, also knows as the Asian 2824 or A2824. BUT, this is not our only option around!


Let's start with an overview of the movements that are simular and easy to swap:


ETA 2824

* Sellita SW200 (also known as the Oris 735)
* Hangzhou 6301
* Seagull TW2130 (also known as the ST2130)
* Miyota 8215




Let's start with the ETA 2824.




ETA 2824

Twenty five jewels, made in Swiss, a true workhorse with a good reputation. Pricing around $250. Power reserve is 40 hours and it is 8 beats a second (28,800 BPH)! Shock resistance by using an incabloc to prevent damage of the balancewheel when the watch is dropped. Hand sizes are 150/90/25


There are three grades of this movement:
* Standard
* Elaborated
* Top


Standard grade
Regulated in two positions with an average rate of +/- 12 sec/day.


Elaborated grade
Regulated in three positions with an average rate of +/- 7 sec/day.


Top grade
Regulated in five positions with an average rate of +/- 4 sec/day.




Sellita SW200

Twenty five jewels, made in Swiss, just like the ETA version it has a great reputation and has proved to be a real workhorse. Pricing varies and these are hard to find, mostly around $200.


Differences with the ETA:
* One extra jewel (26 jewels)
* 38 hours power reserve




Hangzhou 6301

This one is made in China, also 8 beats a sec and are sold around $90. Same power reserve of 40 hours as the ETA. It is regulated to two positions within 15 sec/day.


Differences with the ETA:
* 26 jewels, one more then the ETA
* Shockprotection using Novodiac method




Seagull TW2130

China made, available around $100. Many people say those has been build in a better enviroment then the Hangzhou, but I can't confirm this. Some people found way to much oil in the Hangzhou and the Seagull should be build using the right amount of oil etc. But again, I can't confirm or deny this as it's something that could happen occasionally. It also runs at 8 beats/sec. 40 hours power reserve like the ETA!


Differences with the ETA:
* 26 jewels, one more then the ETA
* Shockprotection using Novodiac method




Miyota 8215




Made in Japan, available at $40-60 and a well known movement.


Differences with the ETA:
* 21 jewels
* 6 beats per second
* unpolished
* 45 hour power reserve (Awesome!)
* Rotor winding in just one direction (so the ETA will wind the mainspring faster using the rotor)
* Shock protection using the Parashock method
* Different hand sizes and stem height (So it's not directly interchangeable!!)
* No hack function












Quick overview of the most common specifications:

Thanks for reading.

 

[zero_deficit]

Thanks for the write up man.

How about the Liaoning/Peacock SL3000 too?

https://watchotaku.atlassian.net/wiki/display/swr/Liaoning+SL3000

 

[KBH]

Great info, thanks.

Minor correction: ETA only uses Incabloc in top 2 grades. Almost all found in reps use the same Novadiac shock system.

 

[DR3M3L]

Thanks for the write up man.

How about the Liaoning/Peacock SL3000 too?

https://watchotaku.atlassian.net/wiki/display/swr/Liaoning+SL3000

Ah, thanks! I'll add it in a few

 

[Raddave]

Like the ETA 2824, the SW 200 is available in various qualities:

1. Standard
2. Spécial (Elaboré)
3. Premium (Top)
4. Chronometer

 

[pilot]

Very good wrote up, especially regarding grades. Thanks

 

[DR3M3L]

Like the ETA 2824, the SW 200 is available in various qualities:

1. Standard
2. Spécial (Elaboré)
3. Premium (Top)
4. Chronometer

True that, thanks mate. Will update the thread soon.

 

[wankerdude]

Soprod A10

 

[Raddave]

Ohhh, and we cant forget the TC 2824 clone which TC himself sells

Lots of people claim this is a chinese clone but i get the impression it is not by statements TC made "I had no luck with the Chinese. They either wouldn't guarantee quality or they just won't make an ETA 2824-2 clone in #4 canon pinion. The standard #2 canon pinion is what they would supply."

According to his chart, The TC2824 seems to out perform the lower grade ETA 2824s somwhat

 

[Omega600]

Thanks mate, I think that sellita makes quality movement. Sometimes , some solutions are better in SW than ETA.

 

[DVNE]

Please don't forget Miyota's 9015. 28.8K bph with a similar stem height to 2824's.

 

[wankerdude]

Please don't forget Miyota's 9015. 28.8K bph with a similar stem height to 2824's.

True, this has turned out to be a really good movement

 

[wankerdude]

Maybe the Seiko Instruments (SII) NE15B

 

[Thrasher]

I thought I read somewhere that the TC movement was American made, But a good and very knowledgeable source inside our community says its Asian... So who knows. I do like the different grades of ETA. Very cool info , Thank You all.

 

[DVNE]

I'd remove the 8215 from the list only because the stem height matches up with a ETA 2836/2846 (which doesn't qualify it to be a 2824 replacement IMO) and it is a low beat movement.

 

[royaloak4life]

Hi everyone, I'm a complete newbie here so pls bare with me. Am looking to purchase the best AP RO replica and realised there are so many options!! One question I have is does the "swiss replica" with the swiss ETA movement make it cost that much more ? or is a japanese replica with a miyota movement is exactly the same quality? Hope the question makes sense. Many thanks in advance!

 

[fistball]

WHAT is the difference between 2836 and 2824 movement?

 

[DVNE]

Stem height. You canvt put a 2836 in a 2824 case and vice versa.

 

[fistball]

Stem height. You canvt put a 2836 in a 2824 case and vice versa.

oh, ok, but when i get a rep rollie, i need to check if it is suitable for 2824 / 2836 , rite?

but mostly the rollie out there are a21 or 2836 case, correct?

 

[DVNE]

Depends... a puretime explorer 1 is a 2824 case. .. a TC 16610 is a 2824 case also.