ETA 2484 in GEN Spec Rolex 5513 Case for Tudor 7021 REP

[Singapore9]

RWI friends, I note the ETA 2484 has a very similar stem height (1.85mm) to the 2824 (1.8mm), which is interchangeable with the Rolex Cal.1520.

The 7021/9411 dial diameter is the same as the 5513 at 26.0mm.

So, my theory is that you could take a GEN spec 5513 case from say Helenarou or preferably @milk051506, fit a GEN Tudor ETA 2484 movement (with the movement spacer), Snowflake dial, hands, plexi, etc. and have a pretty nice Tudor Snowflake 7021 replica.

Anything wrong with this theory? Anyone tried it?

 

[Karbon74]

isn't the JKF case also "gen spec" at least in the inside dimensions.
so your theory should work, I think.

 

[Singapore9]

I thought the JKF was for a 2836 (could be wrong), which would be the incorrect stem height? Also, are they engraved? I'd like a sterile case, so engraving could be done for the Tudor or just left clean, as opposed to 5513, etc.

 

[Karbon74]

I thought the JKF was for a 2836 (could be wrong), which would be the incorrect stem height? Also, are they engraved? I'd like a sterile case, so engraving could be done for the Tudor or just left clean, as opposed to 5513, etc.

you are right. I said something stupid
for some reason I read 2836

 

[Singapore9]

No problem

I do think his should work.... I just want Milk to do a V2 case with some tweaks!

 

[manodeoro]

RWI friends, I note the ETA 2484 has a very similar stem height (1.85mm) to the 2824 (1.8mm), which is interchangeable with the Rolex Cal.1520.

The 7021/9411 dial diameter is the same as the 5513 at 26.0mm.

So, my theory is that you could take a GEN spec 5513 case from say Helenarou or preferably @milk051506, fit a GEN Tudor ETA 2484 movement (with the movement spacer), Snowflake dial, hands, plexi, etc. and have a pretty nice Tudor Snowflake 7021 replica.

Anything wrong with this theory? Anyone tried it?

Sounds doable ... as long as you can source a Tudor 2484 movement ...
If not you could use an ETA 2452 movement which was the base caliber for Tudor 2484.
If you use a rep handset you will need the squeeze the seconds hand tube a bit from 0.25 to 0.21 ...

 

[Singapore9]

Sounds doable ... as long as you can source a Tudor 2484 movement ...
If not you could use an ETA 2452 movement which was the base caliber for Tudor 2484.
If you use a rep handset you will need the squeeze the seconds hand tube a bit from 0.25 to 0.21 ...

The idea is that I have a load of GEN parts (incl. dials, hands, plexis, bezels, inserts, etc.) left over from my GEN restorations and access to a 2484. I could pretty much have an "all GEN except mid-case" if I empty the parts drawer.

I'd rather not pay Viet 7021 case money and I really like the idea of a Milk 5513 case, especially if there was a tweaked Mk.2, but HR also have this case, which should 'work', albeit the lug shape doesn't look great: https://www.helenarou.com/hr-94010-blue-snowflake-watch-case-for-eta-28242-su940102824215201570.html

Like Milk's case, that is also sterile, which I quite like the idea of.

 

[tripdog]

but HR also have this case, which should 'work', albeit the lug shape doesn't look great: https://www.helenarou.com/hr-94010-blue-snowflake-watch-case-for-eta-28242-su940102824215201570.html

HR = ugly lugs and ugly CGs. Of the 2 cases Milk is much better.

 

[Singapore9]

HR = ugly lugs and ugly CGs. Of the 2 cases Milk is much better.

I've PMed Milk a couple of times and tagged him in a couple of his case threads but haven't heard from him. I'm in no rush and since he brought out a Mk.2 of the 1675, I am wondering if a new 5513 will appear with the correct rehaut neck. That would be worth waiting for, as I'd prefer not to glue GEN plexis.

 

[matzemedia]

Once I've build a Tudor 9401 Rep with an ETA Movement. It was not the 2484, it was a ETA 2772 and it fits perfect with the milk case. I don't know about the stem height. Take your time and milk will answer you.

See the build info: https://forum.replica-watch.info/th...-9401-0-on-the-basis-of-a-milk-case.10923416/

I'am looking forward to your build story!

 

[Singapore9]

I know your thread well @matzemedia - Great build and handsome watch! I've got a couple of posts on the last page

 

[manodeoro]

Once I've build a Tudor 9401 Rep with an ETA Movement. It was not the 2484, it was a ETA 2772 and it fits perfect with the milk case. I don't know about the stem height. Take your time and milk will answer you.

See the build info: https://forum.replica-watch.info/th...-9401-0-on-the-basis-of-a-milk-case.10923416/

I'am looking forward to your build story!

The idea is that I have a load of GEN parts (incl. dials, hands, plexis, bezels, inserts, etc.) left over from my GEN restorations and access to a 2484. I could pretty much have an "all GEN except mid-case" if I empty the parts drawer.

I'd rather not pay Viet 7021 case money and I really like the idea of a Milk 5513 case, especially if there was a tweaked Mk.2, but HR also have this case, which should 'work', albeit the lug shape doesn't look great: https://www.helenarou.com/hr-94010-blue-snowflake-watch-case-for-eta-28242-su940102824215201570.html

Like Milk's case, that is also sterile, which I quite like the idea of.

TUDOR 2484:
- overall diameter : 26.00 mm
- overal thickness : 5.30 mm
- stem height : 1.85 mm
- frequency : 18.000 bph
- hands : 1.50 / 0.90 / 0.21

ETA 2452 :
- overall diameter : 26.00 mm
- overal thickness : 5.30 mm
- stem height : 1.85 mm
- frequency : 18.000 bph
- hands : 1.50 / 0.90 / 0.21

ETA 2772 :
- overall diameter : 26.00 mm
- overal thickness : 5.30 mm
- stem height : 2.00 mm
- frequency : 21.600 bph
- hands : 1.50 / 0.90 / 0.25

@Singapore9 ...
If you have a gen dial and a gen handset, and considering the fact that the ETA 2772 fits a Milk's case, I guess the cheapest option would be to use an ETA 2452 ...
1 - you can source an ETA 2452 in good working condition on eBay for less that 100$
2 - the overall diameter and thickness are the same compared to ETA 2772
3 - the 0.05mm stem height difference should'nt be a problem
4 - same frequency compared to Tudor 2484 (18.600)
5 - same hand tubes compared to Tudor 2484 (1.50 / 0.90 / 0.21)
You can even source a sterile oscillating rotor and have it engraved with "TUDOR AUTO-PRINCE" like a 2784 rotor ... Tudor 2484 rotors have a different shape but it could be a nice add-on nevertheless.

 

[Singapore9]

Thanks for the thorough post @manodeoro

I have access to a GEN 2484 but I happened to be looking on eBay at 2452s earlier, as I know they share the base plate and basic details, so that may well be an option for a dummy/test build before committing the 2484.

 

[manodeoro]

Thanks for the thorough post @manodeoro

I have access to a GEN 2484 but I happened to be looking on eBay at 2452s earlier, as I know they share the base plate and basic details, so that may well be an option for a dummy/test build before committing the 2484.

As far as I know the main differences between TUDOR 2484 et ETA 2452 are :
- the engravings on the dial side
- the caliber reference engraved on the main plate
- the engravings on the automatic system
- the oscillating rotor
So for less than $100 testing the compatibility with an ETA 2452 could be a good idea.

 

[Singapore9]

Awesome info!

 

[freebalkany]

There is also a video here that goes in depth into the Tudor 7021 (probably a franken watch).

 

[Singapore9]

That's a great video! Thanks for positing!