EBay "inherited from Grampa"

[Dr. Mike]

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"Inherited" No box, no papers, ok, that I can see. But he has the serial number (Z = 2006-2007) but hasn't done the research to know what it is? I call BULLSPIT!!!

 

[mclarendude]

Reporteeeeed

 

[thefallacy]

Reported as well

 

[Tucker]

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[Tucker]

 

[Tim4682]

I was thinking over the weekend about EBAY's authenticity guarantee where watches go from seller to an authenticator then finally to the buyer and money stays in escrow during the process.

Its a nice feature, but #1 i wonder how much those authenticators actually know, could they spot a really good rep or franken? My guess is no (see Omega getting scammed out of millions on that watch recently lol).

#2 and a bigger issue in my mind is the guarantee only applies to watches $2k and up. They are advertising the hell out of that guarantee, which causes people to have faith/trust that EVERY watch (or whatever) they buy off EBAY is legit (most people dont read fine print). Im sure there are people exploiting that loophole and selling good reps of lower priced models (Breitling, Omega, etc) just below that $2k threshold to avoid the Authenticity 3rd party certification. Buy a good rep for $400 that normally retails in the $2-4k range new and sell it buy it now for $1750, make a tidy profit and no one is the wiser (especially if you include the fake box/papers). Most people would have no way of knowing it was a rep until they had an issue and brought it in for repair.

IMO that authenticity guarantee should be anything over $1k, i fear a lot of people buying in that $1-2K range are getting scammed on the regular.

 

[Karbon74]

I cannot even understand how people can buy expensive watches on ebay.

 

[mclarendude]

I was thinking over the weekend about EBAY's authenticity guarantee where watches go from seller to an authenticator then finally to the buyer and money stays in escrow during the process.

Its a nice feature, but #1 i wonder how much those authenticators actually know, could they spot a really good rep or franken? My guess is no (see Omega getting scammed out of millions on that watch recently lol).

#2 and a bigger issue in my mind is the guarantee only applies to watches $2k and up. They are advertising the hell out of that guarantee, which causes people to have faith/trust that EVERY watch (or whatever) they buy off EBAY is legit (most people dont read fine print). Im sure there are people exploiting that loophole and selling good reps of lower priced models (Breitling, Omega, etc) just below that $2k threshold to avoid the Authenticity 3rd party certification. Buy a good rep for $400 that normally retails in the $2-4k range new and sell it buy it now for $1750, make a tidy profit and no one is the wiser (especially if you include the fake box/papers). Most people would have no way of knowing it was a rep until they had an issue and brought it in for repair.

IMO that authenticity guarantee should be anything over $1k, i fear a lot of people buying in that $1-2K range are getting scammed on the regular.

I sadly went through it and I dislike the fact that it is forced. And it wasn't for that big a watch. Thankfully, the Omega 2264 I bought had just returned from Omega and had all the paperwork, old parts, and it was a full box set so the authenticator shipped it same day they got it. I was weary about them opening it up but it seems they barely touched it. Just looked at it, saw all the Omega paperwork and parts and said "looks good!" and shipped it my way.

I'm sure they stuck the seller with the Autentification fee, which sucks. And the fact that I had to wait 7 days for a watch I could had had in my hands in three days is annoying.

But, I can see why eBay does it. I just don't like it.

 

[Tim4682]

I sadly went through it and I dislike the fact that it is forced. And it wasn't for that big a watch. Thankfully, the Omega 2264 I bought had just returned from Omega and had all the paperwork, old parts, and it was a full box set so the authenticator shipped it same day they got it. I was weary about them opening it up but it seems they barely touched it. Just looked at it, saw all the Omega paperwork and parts and said "looks good!" and shipped it my way.

I'm sure they stuck the seller with the Autentification fee, which sucks. And the fact that I had to wait 7 days for a watch I could had had in my hands in three days is annoying.

But, I can see why eBay does it. I just don't like it.

yeah, its mostly done for marketing to increase sales. If people feel like fakes cant be passed through the system then theyre more likely to buy on EBAY. For people like you that actually know what to look for and can do the homework themselves its an unnecessary burden in terms of cost (ultimately those fees get passed to buyers in the form of higher buy it now, etc) and time.

Unfortunately, the people its designed to protect are getting the worst of it, because theyre likely in that lower $ range (sub $2k) and blindly believe every watch on EBAY is real because of the "authentication guarantee" that they aggressively market.

 

[WristClock]

I was thinking over the weekend about EBAY's authenticity guarantee where watches go from seller to an authenticator then finally to the buyer and money stays in escrow during the process.

Its a nice feature, but #1 i wonder how much those authenticators actually know, could they spot a really good rep or franken? My guess is no (see Omega getting scammed out of millions on that watch recently lol).

#2 and a bigger issue in my mind is the guarantee only applies to watches $2k and up. They are advertising the hell out of that guarantee, which causes people to have faith/trust that EVERY watch (or whatever) they buy off EBAY is legit (most people dont read fine print). Im sure there are people exploiting that loophole and selling good reps of lower priced models (Breitling, Omega, etc) just below that $2k threshold to avoid the Authenticity 3rd party certification. Buy a good rep for $400 that normally retails in the $2-4k range new and sell it buy it now for $1750, make a tidy profit and no one is the wiser (especially if you include the fake box/papers). Most people would have no way of knowing it was a rep until they had an issue and brought it in for repair.

IMO that authenticity guarantee should be anything over $1k, i fear a lot of people buying in that $1-2K range are getting scammed on the regular.

I wouldn't trust it in the slightest. I bought an Explorer II that passed authentication, arrived, and turned out to be a rep. I bought a Portofino, which passed authentication, and then when I sold it, failed authentication (obviously they don't remove casebacks, and they don't store serials - which is weird because you would think a massive database of watch serials and images would be worth something to a subsiduary, police, etc, and save eBay a lot of time/effort).. And after talking to a rep from the authentication team for a while more recently they let slip a way to completely bypass the mandatory authentication on £2k> watches (which I wont post here for obvious reasons). So all told it seems to be a complete shitshow.