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Does the PAM111 Genuine have AR on it?

alvinado

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Does the PAM111 Genuine have AR on it? Experts please chime in?
 

hooligan

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Yes.

However, the AR on gen PAMs is *very* subtle...
 

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hooligan said:
Yes.

However, the AR on gen PAMs is *very* subtle...

+1. The blue single AR on the reps is actually a dead giveaway, the genuine AR is almost colourless, no tint at all.
 

hooligan

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In my opinion, yes.

The AR on my 114E is slightly violet/purple, but not nearly as purple as the AR on Angus' Ultimate 001/111 or the old-school 036 from the same maker.
 

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alviando said:
So a Pam111 with no ar looks closer to gen?

Yes. Another route is to have the crystal single a/r treated or double a/r treated and removing the top coat.
 

hooligan

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Based on Vac's pictures, that looks like standard rep "AR". That is to say far too blue/noticeable. But, not any worse than any other rep out there, either. :wink:


CC - What on earth are you doing up so early on a Saturday?!?!?!
 

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Thanks for the help. I think vac's 111 is a great deal....

@hooli: In this economy, if you have work, its a great thing. I have to make sure that all my paperwork is done
because with my gf's medical bills evry $ counts.

Thanks for the great advice again!

Pete :D
 

hooligan

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I hear ya, Pete!

I was asking Chinkie what he was doing up so early. He's a left-coaster, so it was like 5am for him! :shock:
 

pzissimos

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Maybe he didnt go to sleep yet ????? :shock:

Chinkie.... any comments?

Pete
 

alvinado

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Thanks, you guys are really helpful, I was thinking of getting a PAM 111, but the bluish tint looks too wrong for me, guess I'll go for no AR then..
 

takashi

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Depends on which series. Recent PAMs comes with pretty strong double sided bluish tint AR. However, none of the rep out of box comes with the correct tint. The older PAMs like what you have described look just like they come with no AR coating. Very similar to Omega Seamaster SMP Bond.

So no AR 111 E series will be very close to gen. If you want the usual H, you need to get the coating fixed. Buy the one without AR, sapphire. The coating applied on mineral will be much inferior to when it's applied to sapphire,
 

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Taka, are you sure that new PAMs are coming with double AR?

My I series PAM210 had single AR that was nearly undetectable.
 

takashi

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Yes, pretty sure. Saw a few K series PAM. They looks to have stronger AR.
 

alvinado

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Wow, so the new pams have a bluish tint.. I actually like the blue tint on watches