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Differences between VSF PAM 441 and VSF PAM 1441

ivoc

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Hello,

I'm looking to buy my first pan rep, the one I'm aiming for is VSF PAN 441, though looking at puretime website there are 2 super clones that are identical to me apart from the case back.
Does anyone from the forum have any info on what is the difference if any between the following two super clones?
PAM441 O Real Ceramic VSF 1:1 Best Edition on Brown Asso Strap P.9001 Super Clone V3
PAM1441 U VSF 1:1 Best Edition Black Dial on Brown Asso Strap P.9011 Super Clone
 

ivoc

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Sorry, got typo but cannot edit posted message:

Differences between VSF PAM 441 and VSF PAM 1441​

 

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Main differences:

1441 has a blue second hand and a closed caseback.
441 has a black second hand and a display caseback.

Not sure what the other details are different.
 

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Hello!

This has been discussed, albeit a little chaotically, here:


In fact, from the main one, the VSF 441 and 1441 models differ in the first place, like the GEN; solid caseback, different text on the dial lines and a blue hand, as well as a slight change in thickness (18 vs 17.5mm).

If we talk about the gen of these two models, then there is a noticeable difference in thickness; 18 vs 14mm, different movement, different controls P.9001 vs P.9011, slightly different case proportion.

From the principle, regarding rep VSF PAM1441, this is a typo on the caseback, which, as far as I know, on all produced ones, and I have not heard of a fix.
 
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I've heard some horror tales about the ceramic casing being brittle and not able to withstand impact e.g. a drop. That kinda worries me a bit. Anyone wearing a VSF ceramica clone? How do you think they've coped so far?
 

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I have a couple of the ceramic reps and never had an issue with them.

I am also working on a solution for the liss spelling on the 1441 😉
 

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FYI Panerai updated their 1441 to a baton dial.
Not particularly a fan of the dirty dial, I’m hoping vsf releases an v3 one day.