did i overwind my 111H?

[crick]

i was winding my 111h asian mvnt while talking to a co-worker. AGH i'm so dumb, i didnt pay attention to the winding at all and just haphazardly kept winding.

then "CLICK" or "SNAP" i cant recall the noise i heard but i immediately stopped.

i know OVERWIND is a misnomer as u cant overwind any spring, but did i do something bad? was that snap some tooth in the winding gear that broke off? or do these movements have an overwinding protection like some autos do?

normally i would wind till it stops, but in this case i was distracted and when it hit dead stop, i didnt notice and went one turn over

this just happend, so i'll let it sit for the day but if anyone knows anything offhand, that would be appreciated.

 

[horologie_unitas]

i am not sure with the asian movement. but i know for sure, a swiss Unitas...when overwound - the movement locked itself up....would not run.
then i left it alone for 2-3 days, hit it into the palm of my hand a few times.....and it started running again.
now i cant wait to hear what happens with your movement....and if it will run again.

 

[cybee]

hellooooo crick. You are right about the misnomer of overwinding since most modern watches have a clutch that prevents

the spring from being wound all the way. Is the watch still running or is it possible the spring slipped backward to prevent it

wind any further??? OK I think I'll go fully wind my 111 and see if it makes a noise.

 

[cybee]

OK I just fully fully wound a swiss 6497 skeleton watch..so I could see that when the watch is fully wound and when attempting to wind it any further nothing else moves except the keyless parts...maybe the noise you heard was a slipping of a clutch or winding pinion in keyless works...just a guess I'm sure not all movements react the same.

 

[crick]

thanks guys.

well the pannie iss currently running.

hoping what happend was the teeth on the gear had some tolerance to skip and not break.

or like u said cybee, some sort of slippage.

 

[pete2528ca]

i have an asian movement in my pvd i built, and i hear it snap or crick everytime i wind it. works like a charm so whatever. my swiss eta had stopped once when i had the crown stem out, and i had to wind it to the end and hold it there for a few seconds to get it going again. it was probably nothing.

 

[crick]

yeah so far it's running great. i think i'm just worrying for nothing. i gave it a good winding again just now and everything seems to be in order.

thanks everyone for their input.

The last time i heard a snap like this was when i was winding an old pocketwatch from 1910. it snapped and i later found out the main spring snapped because i went a bit over :?

but that's a 100 year old watch vs the current cream of the crop.

 

[guanaco]

Same thing happened to my Speedy (Back from the AD BTW and running perfectly smooth!) - Remember that this watch was purchased in 1972... So I wouldn't worry much about your PAM.

 

[iSkinnyConHeo!]

It seems I can never overwind my PAM 104.

I have tried just to see what happens, but never reach the end?

 

[hooligan]

It seems I can never overwind my PAM 104.

I have tried just to see what happens, but never reach the end?

That's because your 104 is an automatic movement. Auto movements have clutches in them so that it is impossible to go beyond a full wind. This way if you're wearing it on a full wind, the rotor can still spin, even though it's not actually winding the movement. With no clutch, the rotor would bind and stop spinning once the movement was fully wound.