Cyclops removal

[Spatiumtemporis]

Hi guys,

One hour has passed and I still can't remove the cyclops from my sub crystal. I tried a heat gut, lighter, razor blade, cutting knife, i've seen all the tutorials on youtube and still nothing. The bloody cyclops won't come off.

Any other suggestions ?

 

[Spatiumtemporis]

I left the crystal submerged in acetone. Will see how it goes tommorow. Happy new year everyone !

 

[tripdog]

The tip of a soldering iron held on the crystal - it will take between 45 & 60 seconds - the cyclops will be extremely hot before it comes loose - lighters will never work, with blades etc you risk causing damage.

 

[jmb]

I use a small butane torch with a razor blade applied at a spot where the magnifier contacts the crystal. I keep a little twisting pressure on the blade while applying heat and the magnifier will pop off... I suppose a large (40 watt or so) soldering iron would also work, as described by the 'dawg, but I ain't got that much patience!

 

[dentalrep]

A friend of mine did the acetone trick and it worked.

 

[T3RM1N4T0R]

Yup used a blue flamed butane lighter to the cyclops for about 40 seconds and razor blade

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[johnlogan]

Is the glass gets too hot it will crack FYI
But yeah cigar lighters works great.
20 seconds ands it's off!!

 

[Spatiumtemporis]

Hi guys, the acetone didn't work .

I have 2 soldering iron but i'm having doubts this should work as the contact surface between the iron and the cyclops will be minimal. @tripdog

I also don't have a butane torch now..

Any ideas if all this can ruin the AR coating?

 

[emilio]

At that point small torch is your best bet, hold the tip of the flame on the cyclop and you'll see it become milky due to bubble in the glue. It doesn't take very long, then have a blade ready to scrape it off.
If there's remaining glue or ar from the cyclop you can also scrap it off.

 

[Spatiumtemporis]

I read an article that states usually 200 degrees celsius is enaugh to break this kind glue bond.

Since the melting point of lead/tin is just over 300C i guess the soldering iron will heat up to 500max. The average lighter is around 5-600C and the butane torch 1100C.

My heatgun is rated at 500C max.

This is getting pretty frustrating. I've held a lighter way more than 40 sec directly on the cyclops and absolutely no luck. I didn't see the glue underneath bubbleing or anything.

I've read about tapping the cyclops with a sharp knife but that seems too scary for me to try.

 

[wonderful_mayhem]

Monkey dust and unicorn tears. For real. I used a x-acto and soldering iron.


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[Spatiumtemporis]

At that point small torch is your best bet, hold the tip of the flame on the cyclop and you'll see it become milky due to bubble in the glue. It doesn't take very long, then have a blade ready to scrape it off.
If there's remaining glue or ar from the cyclop you can also scrap it off.

There arena couple of videos on youtube showing the exact thing but for me it's not working.

I have a noob crystal and a gen one. My plan was to swap the cyclops because the gen crystal is cracked.

Neither the gen or noob is comming off..
Wtf??

 

[Spatiumtemporis]

I would go out and buy a butane torch but it's 1st of january )

I have plenty of theese at work though:

 

[tripdog]

There arena couple of videos on youtube showing the exact thing but for me it's not working.

I have a noob crystal and a gen one. My plan was to swap the cyclops because the gen crystal is cracked.

Neither the gen or noob is comming off..
Wtf??

I'm surprised the acetone didn't work - was the crystal completely submerged for at least 12 hours ? ( will need to be in a sealed container as acetone will evaporate off very very quickly . . )

I have a soldering iron that goes up to 450°C, you need to press down quite firmly with the fat part of the tip, applying slight pressure to one side so that when the glue melts the cyclops just slides off - removing it for even 2 seconds to check the glue means you loose temperature - let the heat build up, and the slight lateral pressure will slide the cyclops off cleanly once the glue has melted. I'm not sure what heat and acetone will do to AR, probably the acetone will dissolve it.
Don't whatever you do try to knock the cyclops off with a blade - you'll most likely damage it - I know because it happened to me. . . .

 

[Spatiumtemporis]

I'm surprised the acetone didn't work - was the crystal completely submerged for at least 12 hours ? ( will need to be in a sealed container as acetone will evaporate off very very quickly . . )

I have a soldering iron that goes up to 450°C, you need to press down quite firmly with the fat part of the tip, applying slight pressure to one side so that when the glue melts the cyclops just slides off - removing it for even 2 seconds to check the glue means you loose temperature - let the heat build up, and the slight lateral pressure will slide the cyclops off cleanly once the glue has melted. I'm not sure what heat and acetone will do to AR, probably the acetone will dissolve it.
Don't whatever you do try to knock the cyclops off with a blade - you'll most likely damage it - I know because it happened to me. . . .

I dipped both crystals in a glass half filled with acetone. Both still submerged when i got them out.

The AR seems okay.

I'll try the sorldering method now and post the result.

 

[tripdog]

I'll try the sorldering method now and post the result.

Fix the crystal to something to stop it moving, something that wont be damaged by heat. Get the iron hot, press down firmly on the cyclops, with a little lateral pressure, hold it there till the cyclops slides off - may take 30 seconds, may take 2 minutes, but this always works for me.

 

[Spatiumtemporis]

Fr

Fix the crystal to something to stop it moving, something that wont be damaged by heat. Get the iron hot, press down firmly on the cyclops, with a little lateral pressure, hold it there till the cyclops slides off - may take 30 seconds, may take 2 minutes, but this always works for me.

Finally !! It popped off !

I tried using the soldering iron but the only one working was 20W and pretty low temp.

I held the lighter with the tip of of the flame right on the cyclops for 40 sec but still no luck.

Finnaly i held the crystal above the stove flame and after 10 secs the crystal just popped by itself .

Let's see if i can clean the crystal and remove the other one as well !

 

[tripdog]

Fr


Finally !! It popped off !

I tried using the soldering iron but the only one working was 20W and pretty low temp.

I held the lighter with the tip of of the flame right on the cyclops for 40 sec but still no luck.

Finnaly i held the crystal above the stove flame and after 10 secs the crystal just popped by itself .

Let's see if i can clean the crystal and remove the other one as well !

:evil:

 

[Spatiumtemporis]

All this trouble for nothing... what a shame.

So as i suspected the gen crystal indeed had an AR coating on the backside as well.

Top where the cyclops was glued:

Bottom side facing the dial:

So no black hole for me..

 

[Chroniker]

Ya all doing it wrong!
Always use the right tools for the job.
I have posted my Cyclpos removal tutorial before, but here it goes again:

Apply a little heat

Apply a little leverage

Voilà, black hole

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