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Current issues with Tank Mist Large from both AF and K11F

Mike Wazowski

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I’ve noticed for the past 1-2 months, batches of the AF Must Large have numerous reversed crowns (no bevel before cabuchon)

In addition, the K11F Must Larges have a misprint in their latest batches, also in the last month or two, where the 3 doesn’t line up with the neighboring Roman numerals. Any suggestions anyone? Or do we have to just wait it out till these things are fixed?

Oddly enough, these errors are relatively new, with previous batches not having these issues.
 

amrx365

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Hi, if you're interested, here's my experience with AF over the last two months, which I told someone on Reptime. After conclusion, 3 different crowns were used for the May 26 batch (photos A, B, C), and this batch also has other defects: missing "i" on the "swiss made" of the clasp and too thin "Cartier" writing on the dial. Apparently, these problems are due to a raid that AF has undergone in recent months. Personally, I prefer to wait a few months until all the defects have been corrected. I've opted for a Tank Solo AF which, in my opinion, presents no problems. The Tank must large K11 has, in my opinion, the glaring defects you mentioned.

My experience with AF (Tank must large) over the last two months :


« Hi, honestly AF drove me completely crazy and I won't be recommending them again, or at least not for a few months until all their problems are sorted out.

What I’m telling you only applies to the Cartier Tank Must references WSTA0041 (leather strap) and WSTA0052 (steel bracelet). Everything started to go wrong at the end of June. From April to June, I ordered four Cartier Tank Must watches. All four were great, exactly like the ones AF has been making for several years: good crown, correct font, good strap, etc. Then, at the end of June, I tried to order more, and to my surprise, the crown had changed—it became rounded (photo A) and not flat as it should be and as it has been all these years (photo B). So, I rejected the QC, and the same thing happened with the next QC. I decided to get a refund and waited a few weeks to see new QCs from other Reddit members before ordering again. I noticed that recent QCs had the correct crowns (photo B), so I reordered, and yet again, there was a new crown on my watch (photo C)!! It was acceptable, but there were other flaws: the “Cartier” inscription on the dial was too thin, and the “i” was missing from the “Swiss made” engraving on the clasp (for the WSTA0052). So, I rejected the QC and asked for a replacement, and once again, it had the rounded crown (photo A)!! When I told you they drove me crazy, I wasn’t kidding! 😂

In the span of a week, you could get three different QCs, each with a different crown and a different font! After talking a bit with the TDs and other members, and after seeing many QCs, I came to a conclusion. I think AF tested several batches with different parts over a short period of time, and they need to sell all their watches from all the batches they tested, which is why two QCs from the same day can have different parts. TheOnewatch asked the factory for an explanation, and they said the crowns weren’t “standardized,” which means you can get different crowns from one QC to another, confirming my hypothesis.

Fun fact: I saw a QC of an AF Ballon Bleu with a steel bracelet, and the “i” was also missing from the “Swiss made” on the clasp, which proves that they’re still using new parts and need to sell them. »


 
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I think right now AF is slipping really badly. If I had to get a Tank in 2024 I would get one from the F1 factory.

For Pantheres I've always advised BVF over AF because I thought they did it better, and it seems I'm also right for these new 2024 batches
 

Reaps

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But F1 has disappeared, hasn't it?
Got conflicting response to this. One TD told me yes, closed. One TD said, it's on "holiday" but still old stock left. I lean towards the opinion that there's old stock.
 

noah56

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Hi, if you're interested, here's my experience with AF over the last two months, which I told someone on Reptime. After conclusion, 3 different crowns were used for the May 26 batch (photos A, B, C), and this batch also has other defects: missing "i" on the "swiss made" of the clasp and too thin "Cartier" writing on the dial. Apparently, these problems are due to a raid that AF has undergone in recent months. Personally, I prefer to wait a few months until all the defects have been corrected. I've opted for a Tank Solo AF which, in my opinion, presents no problems. The Tank must large K11 has, in my opinion, the glaring defects you mentioned.

My experience with AF (Tank must large) over the last two months :


« Hi, honestly AF drove me completely crazy and I won't be recommending them again, or at least not for a few months until all their problems are sorted out.

What I’m telling you only applies to the Cartier Tank Must references WSTA0041 (leather strap) and WSTA0052 (steel bracelet). Everything started to go wrong at the end of June. From April to June, I ordered four Cartier Tank Must watches. All four were great, exactly like the ones AF has been making for several years: good crown, correct font, good strap, etc. Then, at the end of June, I tried to order more, and to my surprise, the crown had changed—it became rounded (photo A) and not flat as it should be and as it has been all these years (photo B). So, I rejected the QC, and the same thing happened with the next QC. I decided to get a refund and waited a few weeks to see new QCs from other Reddit members before ordering again. I noticed that recent QCs had the correct crowns (photo B), so I reordered, and yet again, there was a new crown on my watch (photo C)!! It was acceptable, but there were other flaws: the “Cartier” inscription on the dial was too thin, and the “i” was missing from the “Swiss made” engraving on the clasp (for the WSTA0052). So, I rejected the QC and asked for a replacement, and once again, it had the rounded crown (photo A)!! When I told you they drove me crazy, I wasn’t kidding! 😂

In the span of a week, you could get three different QCs, each with a different crown and a different font! After talking a bit with the TDs and other members, and after seeing many QCs, I came to a conclusion. I think AF tested several batches with different parts over a short period of time, and they need to sell all their watches from all the batches they tested, which is why two QCs from the same day can have different parts. TheOnewatch asked the factory for an explanation, and they said the crowns weren’t “standardized,” which means you can get different crowns from one QC to another, confirming my hypothesis.

Fun fact: I saw a QC of an AF Ballon Bleu with a steel bracelet, and the “i” was also missing from the “Swiss made” on the clasp, which proves that they’re still using new parts and need to sell them. »


Solos have slightly thinner “Cartier” text as well. I order two (one is Nov batch and one is March), I can see noticeable differences between the text. Although standardized, crown has never been right for Tank Solos.
 

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Im glad I found this post, I was about to buy an AF Tank Must Small (ref. WSTA0042) - but I think I will wait some time. Does the issues seem to still be there? What is the next best after AF?
I own a F1 Santos Dumont which is really great in all aspects. As long as their Tank is in that quality I wouldn't hesitate to get a F1 Tank Must Small.