Conflicted between PAM 127 "The fiddy" Vs PAM 372.

[Masculine]

Alright Gents I need some help deciding between Pam !27 Vs Pam 372. I will explain my thought process and you guys can correct me where I am wrong.

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I strongly desire a Domed Crystal and want it in a bigger 47mm watch and narrowed it down to Pam 127 and Pam 372.

PAM 372: I have a slight preference towards Pam 372 as I like the polished case and bezel and the bent case shape. I have spent enough hours on the forum to piss off my dear wifey but found out reading ALE's Pam Guide and other posts that that replicas for 372 are not the best of the replicas but here is what is recommended the noob version as it has the best case shape. I really don't care about the back of the watch. I found 2 one at Torobravo and one at Pure time watches

1. http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=pam+372&product_id=900
This Watch is Listed at $ 158

2. http://www.puretime.watch/product/pam372-p-11-noob-best-edition-on-thick-brown-leather-strap-p3000/
This watch is listed at $ 258

Now both the watches look exactly the same but a $ 100 difference ? If I am missing something let me know. Also crystal is Plexi glass and looks little domed not too much though ?


PAM 127 the Fiddy: What Can I say I really like this watch as well sans the brushed and not polished case and found a general consensus as a great first replica watch of great quality. Best replica for Pam 127 Noob version is not available, 2nd best option ZF version from TD's

1. http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1637
Listed at $ 408

2. http://puretime.watch/product/pam12...ck-brown-leather-strap-a6497-with-y-incabloc/
Listed at $ 418.

Decisions, Decisions, Decisions.

Option 1: Buy PAM 372 from Toro for $ 158

Option2: Buy PAM 127 from Toro for $ 408

or

Option 3: Just say F... it and buy them both

I will look forward to any opinions you guys might have. Happy Holidays fellas.

 

[shoes]

I have both, yes it's greedy but I love the look of both of them and, to my eyes, they wear and look v different.


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[Project78]

The marina Militare definitely!! I would never like to sacrifice the second hand @9!

 

[Therion666]

372 is on special at Toro's, hence the price difference, these are the same watches.

Plexi on the 372 scratches very easily, mine is full of micro scratches gained from clothes, I've never hit it against anything. But that's the part of its charm, the plexi is a pleasure to look at. But you have to look very hard to see the scratches.

As far as the 127 goes, the ZF is NOT the best option. The best option is the latest V6 or KW with the correct movement:

http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=127&product_id=1672

Get the 372 first to see if it even fits on your wrist, it's a substantial watch. And then the 127. I personally don't like the 127 at all because of the crystal distortion, it makes the watch look kinda stupid. But the movement decoration is lovely.

My 2 pesos.

 

[ALE7575]

It depends on what you are looking for

Fristly PAM 127 and 372 have dome crystals in very different way. PAM 127 has a domed crystal with smooth increasing of high from the contours to the top of the dome. PAM 372 has a vertical increasing of the high and then increases only a little the dome (almost square edge)

If you want overall accuracy is better going to PAM 127. But not ZFac, because the best current option is KW version (read PAM GUIDE to get the info)
If you want accuracy leaving aside the movement PAM 127 KW and PAm 372 Noob are almost equivalent, and the price form Toro is a real bargain.

IMO PAM 372 model is nicer than PAM 127 model, but this really is a taste matter (I'm talking about models not the reps)

ALE

 

[WalkerDH]

i own Both and for me are totally two different Watch with different Character.
127 KW is more accurate and despite being more impegnative... It is a daily beater...for casual dressing in the office..
372 Noob is the real New Vintage.. So I'm wearing more on weekends.. It must be beaten up and you should learn to live with plexi scratches.. (Or use poly watch. Time to time to restore it).

 

[mysterio]

I would say get both. They are different watches with both very strong Panerai DNA.

 

[WalkerDH]

+1^^^^
perfect summary of my post

 

[cal8500]

[MENTION=86387]WalkerDH[/MENTION]:

What strap do you have mounted on your 127?

 

[Naburus]

Conflicted between PAM 127 "The fiddy" Vs PAM 372.

Had both. Sold the 372. Can't get enough of the Fiddy.

PS: 372 was SC, Fiddy is KW

 

[WalkerDH]

@WalkerDH:

What strap do you have mounted on your 127?

hi, it is a "GPF Perfetto" from Simona.

 

[ALE7575]

Nice post [MENTION=86387]WalkerDH[/MENTION] !!
Congrats

Rep points added

ALE

 

[Perry]

Both are great watches and since you can get the 372 cheap right now I say get them both. I had both watches but sold my 372 as for me it was a bit boring. I would never consider selling my noob 127.

 

[WalkerDH]

Nice post @WalkerDH !!
Congrats

Rep points added

ALE

thanks Ale!

 

[Thrasher]

I would also go with the 127 for the secs at 9 but I have a strong attraction to the 372 case, Just make sure you get the best available even if it costs more. I dont know but if one has the clone 3 or 4 movement I would pick that, i have them in my 424 and 605 and the power reserve is great.

 

[Masculine]

372 is on special at Toro's, hence the price difference, these are the same watches.

Plexi on the 372 scratches very easily, mine is full of micro scratches gained from clothes, I've never hit it against anything. But that's the part of its charm, the plexi is a pleasure to look at. But you have to look very hard to see the scratches.

As far as the 127 goes, the ZF is NOT the best option. The best option is the latest V6 or KW with the correct movement:

http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=127&product_id=1672

Get the 372 first to see if it even fits on your wrist, it's a substantial watch. And then the 127. I personally don't like the 127 at all because of the crystal distortion, it makes the watch look kinda stupid. But the movement decoration is lovely.

My 2 pesos.

Thanks Therion for pointing me in the right direction. Ahhhh ..... the Crystal distortion is what lured me to this watch, I think that is he beauty of this model but to each his own.

 

[Masculine]

It depends on what you are looking for

Fristly PAM 127 and 372 have dome crystals in very different way. PAM 127 has a domed crystal with smooth increasing of high from the contours to the top of the dome. PAM 372 has a vertical increasing of the high and then increases only a little the dome (almost square edge)

If you want overall accuracy is better going to PAM 127. But not ZFac, because the best current option is KW version (read PAM GUIDE to get the info)
If you want accuracy leaving aside the movement PAM 127 KW and PAm 372 Noob are almost equivalent, and the price form Toro is a real bargain.

IMO PAM 372 model is nicer than PAM 127 model, but this really is a taste matter (I'm talking about models not the reps)

ALE

Outstanding, Thanks ALE, thanks to WalkerDH, Thanks to all who posted to help and keep it coming with any suggestions.

@ WalkerDH I am envious of the pair you have and hope mine would look as pretty as yours. what is the source of the strap on your PAM 372 ?

 

[Masculine]

Ok Guys, I am about to pull the trigger, There was enough consensus to buy them both. I can't pass up the

1. PAM 372 Noob from Toro at $ 158. http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=pam+372&product_id=900

will also buy

2. PAM 127 V6 which I am pretty sure is the KW version. Reading Ale's guide and comparison between ZF vs KW, I think KW would be better.
http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=127&product_id=1672

I might get a third watch as well from Toro, Does anyone know if Toro offers any discounts ? How should I contact him. PM through here or on his website.

Once again Thanks a bunch to you all and any more suggestions are welcome.

 

[Therion666]

V6=KW. It's best to send him an e-mail,you can find the adress in his thread. Toro offers a discount if you pay with WU,10% I believe.

 

[WalkerDH]

Ok Guys, I am about to pull the trigger, There was enough consensus to buy them both. I can't pass up the

1. PAM 372 Noob from Toro at $ 158. http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=pam+372&product_id=900

will also buy

2. PAM 127 V6 which I am pretty sure is the KW version. Reading Ale's guide and comparison between ZF vs KW, I think KW would be better.
http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=127&product_id=1672

I might get a third watch as well from Toro, Does anyone know if Toro offers any discounts ? How should I contact him. PM through here or on his website.

Once again Thanks a bunch to you all and any more suggestions are welcome.

Now you you need to start ordering some straps ...