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CLEAN FACTORY Rolex Daytona 116519LN

enke89

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Hi ladies & gents,

I recently made a purchase of a Clean Factory Rolex Daytona 116519LN from JTime, and thought I would make a contribution to this wonderful community by posting my review accompanied by honestly quite frugal attempt at photography, as even though I have been a member of this forum for quite some time and made a few replica purchases as well as owning some gen's, I have admittedly contributed quite little so far, so here goes...

After much trial and tribulation, and being fortunate enough to have made some decent bee's & honey off the soon to crash markets and recent crypto craze (please don't invest now, be patient for 6-8 months and thank me later), I decided to jump the gun and make some horological investments.

I was fully committed to buy a gen, but alas, in the day and age we live in, it no longer matters if you have the economic capacity to do so with certain brands, and after having gone to 3 or 4 Rolex dealers, both in my home country and in the Middle East where I frequently travel, it was unfortunately not possible. So I thought to myself "**** them* and decided to re-enter the world of replica's after many years, re-study all the new factories, models. who's better and what and so on, and purchase my much desired watch - the Rolex Daytona 116519LN (currently on secondary markets for around $45k).

And then I bought a gen watch, but more on that later..

As far as I recall there are two "tier 1" options for the Rolex Daytona 116519LN - by "Tier 1" (my own grading with absolutely no scientific fundament) I mean they have the same dimensions as gen (thickness particularly) and a fully working Chronograph - one from the Noob factory which is slightly more expensive (and from what I understand the OG's when it comes to this level of replica) and one from Clean Factory (this factory did not exist back in 2012 when I made my first replica purchase).

Finally I decided to go with the Clean Factory, simply because it was slightly cheaper and from the pictures I could not tell the difference from the Noob versions.

After reading reviews of the TD's I made my decision to go with JTime (don't know how to do a shoutout, but he/they deserve one). Fully recommended service, just as good as buying a 5k watch off Chrono24. No complaints on my side, but this is a watch review and not a TD review. Anyway kudos to JTime. Excellent.

So here go the pictures. Please excuse my pictures for you pro's out there, but hopefully they sufficiently compliment the review:



Sorry for dumping all the images at once, but I'm a noob at forums.

MY OWN PERSONAL THOUGHTS ON THE WATCH SUBJECT TO ALL YOUR INSIGHTFUL CRITICISM:

- Buying process (10/10)
: As previously mentioned, the purchase through JTime was easy, painless and professional. Obviously it takes some time to receive the watch in Europe, but come on guys be patient, this isn't Amazon. They are putting in an order to a factory in China, receiving it, doing a QC for you, sending you HQ pictures and videos and even testing it with a precise machine to measure the accuracy of the movement. You can't really ask for more. Took about a month and a half in total. 10/10.

- Dial (9/10): Honestly, I am blown away by the quality and finishing of the watch. The dial is spectacular. It has a fine grain to it in a sort of sunburst pattern which explodes outwards from the center which is simply astounding for a rep. I'm not sure if the color is close to the gen as I have not held the gen in my hands, but without seeing the gen side-by-side, this could pass for a genuine watch any day. It has a very VERY slight "brownish-bronzeish" tint to it, which I think to recall the gen also had, but again when you are looking at it standalone in the Rolex dealer full of spotlights, it's hard to tell if it was the same as this one or slightly more silvery. In any case, it's absolutely beautiful. The lettering on the dial is REALLY precise. The Rolex engraving on the inner bezel is as gen-like as you can get. The finishing on the hour markers, minute markers, hands a the lot is fantastic. Honestly, to the "not-extremely-trained" eye, or unless you're ****ing Legolas and can see an Orc's pubic wart from 50 miles away, the finishing is top-notch.
Now, the ONLY thing which I think you can tell it is NOT a gen, is in the Rolex crown on the dial marker. You need to be really really picky to see it, and you will never see it unless you know what you're looking for. This crown design, unfortunately, is from older Rolex Daytona models from the 1960's (any maybe later). The bottom of the crown (the round thing), is "rounder" on this rep whereas the new gen Daytona models from Rolex have slightly modified the Crown design where the bottom of the crown is now slightly "flatter" making it more of a "rounded rectangle" than an "oval" shape. Here are some pictures from a gen crown and my Clean factory watch for comparison:

MY WATCH CROWN (CLEAN)


GEN 116519LN
 

enke89

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PART 2 (CONTINUED)

The bad: The only "bad" (bad is a strong word, how about "not-so-good") thing about the dial is the Lume. The Lume is crap. The color is great - sure (again, haven't seen the lume on the gen), but it lasts for literally 5 minutes at best and you need to shine a light on it for a long time for it to even start to get any luminescence. The lume on my Noob was for some reason much better, this one is the weakest point of the dial. But again, who is going to be inspecting your watches lume at night, right?

Rating: 9/10 because of the lume.



- Oysterflex (8/10): The rubber is good quality, and visually it looks just like the gen. On the wrist it's super comfortable. Now to be honest, this is one of the biggest give-aways that it is indeed a rep. Visually, it's the same. Tactile, it's not. It's "just" a rubber strap (a good one at that), but it doesn't have the interior metal bracelet which the gen Oysterflex has inside. You can bend it either way - you cannot do this with a gen. Does it bother me? No. Is it solid, comfortable and good quality rubber? Yes. Will someone trained notice when you hand it over to them and then handle it? Yes, unless they're idiots.

Rating: 8/10 because it's great, but not close to gen when handling it.



- Clasp (10/10): I used to own a Noob Submariner v5. I can tell you the Clasp on this Daytona is MILES ahead. It snaps on so tightly and yet so effortlessly at the same time you would be hard pressed to realize its a rep. It's that good. It fit's in perfectly and does not stick out at all (as my Noobmariner did).

Rating: 10/10, no more comments.



- Movement (TBC)
: The movement (for now) works flawlessly. The winding mechanism is super smooth. When comparing to my old Noobmariner v5, the quality of this movement to the touch, feel and hearing (subjective) is obviously much better (again, for now - this is an important note to make). Both the top and bottom chronograph pushers work to perfection and are even joyful to press, with a very slight "tick" when you do so. The chronograph also works great. The accuracy of the movement, at least on my model, was about +-2 seconds a day, which honestly is not bad.

Rating: I do not give it a rating out of 10, instead a "to be confirmed", because the quality of a movement is not measured in daily deviation or the smoothness of the winding mechanism. It is instead measured by the many many years it lasts, or not. In the case of my Noobmariner v5, it lasted 6 years before it died (needs service, any recommendations? :D). Everything seems to indicate this movement is better, but we will see.



-Case (9/10): Obviously the case is NOT white gold. It's stainless steel, but the finishing is again fantastic. The polish is really good, the sizing of the case and the thickness is spot-on with the gen, and since it's on an Oysterflex bracelet, there's no faffing about with "omg the SEL on your model is off by 0.000000001mm" etc etc so typical of reps. It just fits great, the polish is great, it's thin and looks fantastic.

Rating: 9/10
because it's perfect, but obviously not white gold so can't give it a 10.

Final Thoughts: Now if any of you are into watches, let's ignore for one moment that this is a replica watch. The fact that you can buy a working automatic chronograph of 28800bph, with a ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal and a beautiful finish for about 900€ is already in itself a pretty good deal. You would be hard-pressed to find this anywhere else apart from maybe Seiko's, Hamilton's and the sort. So to be honest, this is a great deal.


BONUS:
For those of you interested (or bored) enough to have read this far, if you were paying attention I did say I bought a gen also at roughly the same time. The gen I went for was the Grand Seiko SBGA211, also known as the "Snowflake". The reason I'm posting this is because, Grand Seiko watches have one of the best if not the best finishes in the business. They really are on another level and just absolutely spectacular. Pictures do not do it justice. Depending on the light, the angle, the color, the watch just changes and blossoms so wonderfully. So when I see my Clean Factory REP 116519LN next to this GS, which is quite honestly a work of art, and don't see that much difference in the finish, it just goes to show how bloody good the rep is. So here are some bonus pics of my snowflake which are really bad and don't do it justice. For you watch freaks out there, go to a GS Boutique and just spend 45 mins handling these. It's orgasmic.





TL;DR: The watch is great. If you're doubting, just buy it bruv.

That's it for my review, I hope you all find this review useful, insightful, annoying or too long.

Best,
 

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Awesome, thanks for sharing! I'm really really tempted to get this exact Clean Daytona..

On a side note: The Noob Oysterflex had the metal blade inside - but the color was way off, so i got myself a gen OF. You might want to consider this - it really was a great upgrade and made a world of difference.

Man, i still don't know why i sold my 116519ln.

Congrats on both purchases! 👍🏻
 
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enke89

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Thank's Itto, hope you found it useful. The quality of the Rep game has really improved in the last 6-7 years.

Regarding the strap.. maybe. I personally don't think it's worth buying the gen one (don't know how much it costs, but I bet you could buy yourself another rep for the price of the OF), no one will notice it on the wrist and this one is super comfortable anyway. But it's up to personal choice.

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Thank you for your detailed review. The pics were very good. It's nice to see how impressive these reps are which is another indication of how far the rep world has come in a short period of time.
 

Kcguy23

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Awesome review. Very helpful. Thanks for taking the time!
 

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Man, great review! and don't beat yourself up this being a beginners review, you did a better job than most other people here (,and most people here are already awesome :D)

I recently ordered the BTF 116500 panda and received it last weekend. It is absolutely spectacular! I am blown away by the quality of these replica Daytonas, making me question how justified are the prices of the real pieces.

Btw, I have a gen Pepsi, and the statement above is coming from someone that handled both.
 
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Goldsimba1989

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I don't get it the photo above is the picture I Photoshoped

Haha you can't order it like that 😉
What are your specs?
 

wolfwood

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Since the watch is not real gold, wouldn't the weight be way off? Btw, I love that GS. The dial is just amazing.

I'm thinking of getting the Panda Daytona from BTF. Thanks for the detail review.
 

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Since the watch is not real gold, wouldn't the weight be way off? Btw, I love that GS. The dial is just amazing.

I'm thinking of getting the Panda Daytona from BTF. Thanks for the detail review.
Yup the weight is off, but no one would ever know unless they compared them side by side with a real one. Of course, I wouldn't ever tell someone mine was real if they asked.
 
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RollyAP

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I thought Clean's Oysterflex strap had the metal plates inside? How about BTF's Oysterflex strap?
 

oVftdPQJRP

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CF Clean Factory does have the metal band inside the rubber as far as I'm aware.
 

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I love this watch. I have been trying to decide between this one and the Panda. Great review.
 

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Very informative, thank you for the feedback. Stunning timepiece. Wear it in good health.

Interested in buying this beauty. I’m aware the steel case and clasp doesn’t have the warm color tone as the white gold watch. Is the color shade a instant-tell to you that it’s a rep or does the metal color that CF manufacture with look fairly close to gen?
 

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the rep is same stainless steel color as the gen. you could always get it plated

here is a pic of two gens.

stainless steel on top, gold on bottom

 
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