*** Choosing PAM 364/243, 569, 535/531 opinions/suppliers help please ***

[kingcrab]

Hello All,

I just spend several hours reading many nice detailed write-ups by all the nice members and moderators here, thank you.

If not too much trouble, may I get some opinions/ suggestions on these pieces:

PAM 364/243, 569, 535/531

Factories: Both NOOB and V6F/KW are comparable in quality?

Suppliers: Besides TSwatches on the TD, any other one(s) I might also consider?

Thank you in advance.

 

[ihs0yz]

Hi, I'll try my best to be useful. I'm new myself!

I can't comment on the models you chose, they all seem pretty good and I've considered 243, 364 and 569 myself.

Noob & V6F/KW have mostly been very well received and they're usually not too far off from each other, based on my very very limited knowledge.

TD - Ryan of InTime has a good reputation here, I noticed he has competitive warranty and damage during shipment terms and Angus of Puretime is not too bad. He currently has an 8% christmas sale and you can stack that with the 10% Western Union discount he offers, making it 18%. Personally, I ended up with Ryan mostly because of his T&Cs *hint hint*

Oh and always always be careful of fakes. If it wasn't for bumping into the forums I might've got scammed. I googled Davidsen, got a Pamela Watch email address, sent an email and got redirected to a noobwatch website which led me to a hontwatch.com (a fake btw) which supposedly specialises in Panerais compared to noobwatch. But hontwatch only operates on hontwatch.ru and his email address is gmail NOT hotmail which was the one I exchanged a few emails with!

 

[ALE7575]

The order in decreasing rep quality would be:

PAM 243
PAM 364 – PAM 569
PAM 531
PAM 535

Two last ones are with display caseback and, therefore, the evaluation decreases, but the overall quality is the same. I will depends on your own taste., because all them are really different

All our TDs are trustworthy
I’m buying from Torobravo
Noob and KW could be considered equivalents, but in the watches you are considering there are no coincidences

Good luck

 

[Therion666]

If you need an accurate rep, go for the ones with closed casebacks. I chose and would choose a Noob 243 without any second thoughts. V6/KW doesn't make one. There's a new H factory version that's supposed to be as equaly good as the Noob.
I have the best experience with Supermirrors ( Sead ) and Shinewatch ( Sora ), great service and reasonable prices-for watches and shipping.

 

[mike 8]

If you need an accurate rep, go for the ones with closed casebacks. I chose and would choose a Noob 243 without any second thoughts. V6/KW doesn't make one. There's a new H factory version that's supposed to be as equaly good as the Noob.
I have the best experience with Supermirrors ( Sead ) and Shinewatch ( Sora ), great service and reasonable prices-for watches and shipping.

+1

 

[Cheesemonger]

You also may want to consider the new 087 as well. So far it's well received and it is very nicely done.

 

[kingcrab]

Thank you all for the reply, truly appreciated.

So, Ale, are both 531/535 are not as good in rep quality? May I get some suggestions from your gents for the GMT model? Or the Regatta Chrono? with quality on par as the 243/364. TIA

Also PAM 569 has 3 version of factories, JF, V6F and ZF, may I ask which is the best? thx

 

[Therion666]

029 for GMT,super rep status,one of the best ones out there.

As Ale has already told you-it's not the quality,it's the accuracy of replication,there are NO perfect reps with open casebacks,because there are NO 100% accurate rep movements available.

Look no further,get a 243 H-fac. Trust me on this one,it's amazing!

 

[kingcrab]

029 for GMT,super rep status,one of the best ones out there.

As Ale has already told you-it's not the quality,it's the accuracy of replication,there are NO perfect reps with open casebacks,because there are NO 100% accurate rep movements available.

Look no further,get a 243 H-fac. Trust me on this one,it's amazing!

I was looking at pure time but found no 243 from H fact. Any suggestion? Thx

 

[Therion666]

Intime has it on their site. But I'd contact Supermirrors or Shinewatch if you want a REALLY good price.

 

[ALE7575]

I was looking at pure time but found no 243 from H fact. Any suggestion? Thx

You are asking many questions already answered in PAM GUIDE
"Reference PAM REVIEW-GUIDE" - Replica Search, Identification, Evaluation & Selection.
https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb...earch-Identification-Evaluation-amp-Selection

PAM 243 H maker links, for example, there are seven links published in PAM GUIDE, as follows:

- H maker V2 M-series
(**)http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1540
(**)http://www.intime.co/panerai/2147-pam-243-m-h-maker-1-1-ultimate-edition-on-rubber-strap-v2.html
(**)http://www.ttw8488.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=352&products_id=13017
(**)http://www.ttw8488.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=352&products_id=13016
(**)http://www.ttw8488.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=352&products_id=12306
(**)http://www.pf-818.com/pn243m02-submersible-ssle-p-16927.html
(**)http://www.pf-818.com/pn243m01-submersible-ssru-p-16926.html

Regarding PAM 569 versions are also explained and evaluated in PAM GUIDE

Just reading

ALE

 

[kingcrab]

Intime has it on their site. But I'd contact Supermirrors or Shinewatch if you want a REALLY good price.

Hi does shine watch go by another name as I cannot find it. Also is noob better or H fav for the 243 thx

 

[kingcrab]

Thank you so much Ale

 

[Therion666]

Hi does shine watch go by another name as I cannot find it. Also is noob better or H fav for the 243 thx

Geez man...EVERYTHING you are asking is already in the guide and has been more or less answered in this thread.. You're asking us to do the work for you. That's some lazy shit. You have the guide and the Search button.

Here's the Shinewatch section:

https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/forumdisplay.php/349-ShineWatch

Noob 243 is the best, but not available. The latest H-factory is more or less as good as the Noob. You have no alternative unless you wait for a good one in M2M. You know about the M2M, right?

You're welcome.

 

[kingcrab]

Geez man...EVERYTHING you are asking is already in the guide and has been more or less answered in this thread.. You're asking us to do the work for you. That's some lazy shit. You have the guide and the Search button.

Here's the Shinewatch section:

https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/forumdisplay.php/349-ShineWatch

Noob 243 is the best, but not available. The latest H-factory is more or less as good as the Noob. You have no alternative unless you wait for a good one in M2M. You know about the M2M, right?

You're welcome.

Thank you I read the links posted by ALE

 

[Therion666]

Good. Hope it helped.