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Changeable cyclops?

alucard666

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Hi all!
Is it possible to change the cyclops on a cartel pam? The size and magnification on mine is all wrong. If that is an option vs a new crystal what would be the best place to source a good one?
Thanks in advance.
 

taiji

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The Cartel use mainly 2 types of crystal with cyclop.

The first type is the one that the cyclop and the crystal are separated and the rep factory glue them together.

These are mainly use for 44mm auto PAM rep like Unltimate PAM88, 89, 29, 63.

The cyclop for this type can be removed by applying heat from a flame gun to melt down the glue but it will be wise to let an experience person do the job as over heating may cause burn injury or crack crystal.

The second type is the sandwiched type. It is made up of 2 parts whereby the upper mineral glass (not sapphire) is with the cyclop and the bottom glass with a cut out hole to let the cyclop sit into it. The upper and bottom glass will then be joined together.
The rep factory use this becos they can't find the correct diameter crystal with the correct thickness for the bezel.

These are mainly use for PAM submersible reps like PAM24, 243, 87 etc.

The bad thing about this type of so called crystal is the glue use to joined the 2 glass will melt after some time thus leaving "oil pattern" especially around the cyclop outer diameter.

I hope the above helps

If you are planning for a 44mm auto pam, you can try to look out for chieftang's cyclop.

However, they are very rare to find and almost impossible.

Another option will be going through the for sale section and look out for any donor case set with crystal from ultimate Auto PAM.

For the submersible, almost impossible to source.

You definitely need a chieftang's cyclop plus a correct diameter and thickness crystal or mineral glass froma donor watch.

Help this helps
 

polaris

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Depending on the model of PAM you have you can try asking a dealer for a crystal from either a 199G for a submersible crystal or a crystal from a Ultimate 104/220/164. These have cyclopes cut into the crystal.

These I know are single piece crystals that can have aftermarket AR applied.

You cannot tell if your crystal is single or sandwich without taking the crystal out.
Here are pics of a sandwich crystal
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Here are 199G and 220I crystals [nvm the dirt line from where the gasket stopped.]
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The next question is whether or not one of the above crystals will fit your case. It may be cheaper to sell your watch and buy another.
 

supermanx

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+ 1... Went through hell and back trying to replace a buddy's crystal with cyclops. Took 5 before getting one that fit.

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alucard666

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Hmm... Seems like it may be easier to sell the watch and get an ultimate, Dsn or one that's already been modded.
+ 1... Went through hell and back trying to replace a buddy's crystal with cyclops. Took 5 before getting one that fit.

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