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Cartier Tortue Review

spookycord

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I've been getting lots in inquiries about this watch, so I figure best way to answer them all is to just write up a little review of this little overlooked rep. (Sorry about the shoddy pics. I took these before knowing what a camera was. I'll update this with some better pics soon)

History
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Original Tortue 1912.

The Cartier Tortue is part of Cartier's exclusive Privee Collection. The Collection Privee was launched in the late 1990's to promote the rich watch making heritage of Louis Cartier and Maison Cartier. This collection reinterprets legendary models with contemporary innovation. Some of the complications found in this line include intertwined double C tourbillons, perpetual calendars, two-time zone watches, skeleton watches, and in the case of the gen of this model, a minute repeater.

There are 5 characteristics that distinguish watches from the Privee Collection:
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The Tortue was originally created in 1912 and has served as the basis for countless watches in the 20th century.


Background
This Tortue Replica is actually a replication of two Tortue models mashed together; the Mens Tortue XL in Platinum and 18K White Gold, and the Tortue Minute Repeater.

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Case:
The standard Tortue is available in platinum and 18k white gold, yellow gold, or rose gold, while the minute repeater comes in yellow or rose gold. The rep is obviously stainless steel. The minute repeater has a bolt on the left side of the case to set the repeater mechanism. The rep case more resembles the standard Tortue. Another big flaw is the caseback. I don't know what the caseback on the Minute Repeater is but the Tortue has a display caseback, showing the double C engraved bridges on the movement. The rep is a solid caseback hiding an asian auto movement modified for seconds at six. The crown is well replicated except the jewel is not a deep enough blue in direct light.

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Dial:
The dial on the rep is nearly an exact copy of the minute repeater model. It has the signiture Paris stamp and guilloche dial with flower pattern. The markings and spacings all look pretty accurate around the dial. The hands are blue, but like most Cartier reps, a little too blue in the light. The only glaring flaw is that the rep is missing the metalic ring around the seconds dial. Here is a photo comparison to a gen standard Tortue XL.

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Buckle and Strap
The 'C' deployant buckle and black alligator strap adorn all watches in the Privee collection. The rep makers have done a valiant job replicating this feature. Obviously the strap is a cheap faux gator, and the clasp is far from perfect (notice the neck length on the hinge), but barely noticeable without side by side comparison.

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Movement
In the late 19th century, Cartier relied on great watchmakers like Audemars Piguet, Vacheron Constantine, Bredillard, and Dragonneau to supply their movements. In 1907 Cartier signed a contract with Edmond Jeager for exclusive production of movement with any complication. This partnership created the first Cartier Tortue in 1912. Today Cartier makes and assembles it's watches in it's own facility in Switzerland, but still partners with some of the great watchmakers of the world. The Gen Tortue comes in three different movements, all developed through partnership with other world class watchmakers.

The calibre 43 MC made by Paiget.
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The calibre 9601 MC made by Jaeger-LaCoultre.
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The calibre 9401 MC Minute Repeater made by Renaud et Papi. And of course the rep movement which is a manual wind, but I can't identify it.
By the way this chinese manual wind was totally filthy when I removed the 8 screws and openned the caseback. I give it 2 years tops.
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The Price
Well, the Mens Tortue XL in Platinum/18kWG retails for over $20K. The 18k Minute Repeater module retails for an outrageous $190K!!! On the other hand, the SS Tortue Replica retails for $00.1K or $100 USD.



Editorial Comments
I first heard about this rep from seanf, a mod over on RWI. I remember I was in the market of a dress watch and was searching around for some ideas. My basic criteria was that it had to be thin to fit under a dress shirt, leather banded, not gold, non chrono, and under 42mm. Although it is not the most accurate rep (some would consider it a fantasy watch) it fit the bill perfectly. I contacted Ruby because she has always been very good at finding reps off the beaten path, and she came through like she always has for me.

It should be noted that there IS a rep of the standard Mens Tortue XL which should be more accurate but I haven't seen the rep yet. I opted to not get it just because I like to see the seconds hand move. It might as well be a quartz if I can't see that.

After wearing PAMs, HBBs, UPOs and IWC CD's it did seem a bit diminutive at first. But as a dress watch, it's function follows it's form in this department. It is very elegant and could be worn by either a man or a woman. I will update this post with the exact dimensions but it's around 40mm or less across.

With regards to it's accuracy; well I appreciate an accurate rep like most of us on this forum. If you look at my collection (on RWG or Geeks), my tastes lean toward the reps that come pretty close out of the box. With this watch though, I really don't care.
For one, it's an 'occasion' watch. I only wear it with a suit, which is usually only once a month. Second, no one but the most anal WIS would even know what this watch is, as it's part of Cartier's Privee Collection. I've walked into my local Cartier Store and inquired on the Tortue and they had to pull catalogs and search for what I was looking for, and naturally couldn't tell me any details on the watch. And the Minute Repeater model? Only 25 made anyway. So bottom line, if anyone were to try to call me out, I'd look them dead in the face and say "Do I look like I'm dumb enough to spend $190,000 on a frickin watch?" Of course they'd probably say 'Yes, you do look that dumb' and then well, whatever...
The point is, certain watches in my collection are so-called project watches where you almost end up spending more than the gen to get that thing modded exactly right (and then still aren't satisfied), and certain watches in my collection, like this Cartier Tortue, fulfill a functional need. In my case, the Cartier Tortue is the perfect stainless steal, leather banded, non chrono, elegant dress watch. Thanks for reading.


Some Parting Shots

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daytona4me

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Wow,, now this is a great review.. please allow me to put this in our offical watch review forum for reference.. !

Great Job spooky! :D
 

spookycord

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Thanks Daytona. It's my first review/write up, and I'd be honored to have it added. Thanks!
 

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D4M beat me to it. Spooky-- great review, and I'm glad you like the Tortue. I like mine so much that I bought two of them-- one with leather and one with a SS band that I had custom made (had to use a dremel to make the end pieces fit). You're right-- the Tortue isn't for everyday wear, but it's the best formal watch I own. The size is interesting-- it's flat enough to fit under any shirt sleeve (one of my major pet peeves for formal watches), but it's long enough to span from wrist end to wrist end.

Funny thing about the Tortue rep. Spooky is right-- it's a mash-up of two different Tortue models. But aesthetically, I actually prefer the rep to either of the gens.

Oh one more thing-- this is not an automatic-- it's a manual winder (which adds to the coolness).
 

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The Tortue has a great shape to it, nice size and super style ...now I have to go shop for one. Thanks for such an awesome review...also I could be mistaken but I believe the gen Tortue also has a manual wind base Jaeger-LeCoultre movement...cool watch.

If you don't mind which dealer did you purchase this from...Thanks :D
 

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You are making it tough to stick with what I've already got.....
 

spookycord

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cybee said:
The Tortue has a great shape to it, nice size and super style ...now I have to go shop for one. Thanks for such an awesome review...also I could be mistaken but I believe the gen Tortue also has a manual wind base Jaeger-LeCoultre movement...cool watch.

If you don't mind which dealer did you purchase this from...Thanks :D

Cybee, you are correct on the movement. Actually there are a couple movements the gen comes in. I've added a movement section to the review just for you :wink:

Oh and I got it from Ruby.
 

cybee

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The movement info is a great addition to an already fantastic review...I will check with Ruby, thanks again Spooky. :D
 

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Reading this review reminded me of how much I love this watch, so I decided to wear it today. One additional follow-up to spooky's review. Of the two Tortues I own, I had to fix the deployment clasp on both. It was an easy fix-- I just had to bend the connecting tang a little bit with needlenose pliers. But if I didn't do this, the watch wouldn't have closed at all.

Also, if you buy this watch, be aware that it will be nigh impossible to source a new leather band with a single deployment style clasp unless you're willing to fork over quite a bit o' cash. The problem is that the design of a single-deployment band is unique (one short band with a completely covered endpiece, one long band with no holes). I did ask HKTan if he could do a custom, and he said yes, but for about $100. Didn't feel right about spending more for the band than I did for the watch. And truthfully, the band isn't awful. Not great by any means, but slightly above average as far as rep "leather" straps go.
 

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Possible to seek advice if anyone knows if this watch is still available?
 

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Cartier Tortue watches are finest watches ever which I have seen. It looks amazing and coolest. It can show up our personality and style. It made by some new technology. It can be available in platinum, white gold and yellow gold.