Can you help me identify Noob version?

[crashuid]

Hi folks,
I'm interested in this watch https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/pam111-early-noob-version-uk.10984250/
According to the seller is one of the earlier versions of Noob PAM111 and he recalls buying it around 2011.
I tried to do some research but I couldn't get into any conclusions. One of the things I notice is that the back case does not have engraved the panerai symbol with one arrow pointing up and another pointing down.

Could you please help me identifying the factory(he is stating it's Noob) and version?

Thanks.

 

[KOT1917]

Good day!

Firstly, if the sale is approved with such a description - you can trust it.
Secondly, the indication of the factory and version, as a rule, is required so that in the absence of knowledge and understanding of the details, in any case, the absence of a desire to look at them, immediately read and understand what is good and what is bad in this watch.
For such 111, with the exception of rare J series, suggesting a basis for modifications, there are almost always no advantages compared to later versions, so there is no reason for clarification - honestly, I see.
A normal luminor bettarini on 6497, with a good movement, in general condition and a sapphire crystal for ~ $ 200 is normal, and then it just depends on what you compare it with.

 

[crashuid]

Good day!

Firstly, if the sale is approved with such a description - you can trust it.
Secondly, the indication of the factory and version, as a rule, is required so that in the absence of knowledge and understanding of the details, in any case, the absence of a desire to look at them, immediately read and understand what is good and what is bad in this watch.
For such 111, with the exception of rare J series, suggesting a basis for modifications, there are almost always no advantages compared to later versions, so there is no reason for clarification - honestly, I see.
A normal luminor bettarini on 6497, with a good movement, in general condition and a sapphire crystal for ~ $ 200 is normal, and then it just depends on what you compare it with.

Thanks is 200GBP and not $200USD Is more like $260

 

[KOT1917]

Well, I marked it as "~" ( approximately), Like the new pam on 6497, a random model, has long been worth from $ 150 to $ 300 at different times, in contrast to the factory and dealer, the presence of discont, and so on.
To understand correctly, I am not trying to dispute the sale price, I just want to make it clear that it is fair, and then the question of comparing with your expectations or other offers.

 

[Martycus]

One of the things I notice is that the back case does not have engraved the panerai symbol with one arrow pointing up and another pointing down.

It's called the Officine Panerai logo and it's represented as the initial OP.

Panerai had tools, guidance and time keeping instruments used in the military for both for aviators and undersea servicemen. The Up arrow represents the instruments used for the sky and the down arrow represents the instruments used for undersea.

 

[marcsp2675]

I have a Noob V4 from 2019. And to my eye, I can't see any difference to these pics.

 

[crashuid]

I have a Noob V4 from 2019. And to my eye, I can't see any difference to these pics.

Doesn't have the panerai logo on the back as well?

 

[Tucker]

I have a Noob V4 from 2019. And to my eye, I can't see any difference to these pics.

@KOT1917 can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Noob started the Y incabloc with their V4 so if you have a V4 should have the Y incabloc. The watch the OP is considering does not have that movement feature so it is probably a V1, V2 or V3.

 

[KOT1917]

Of course, you are right, it is not V4, and not even V3. It is V2, most likely CB with H series (I don't remember how 2 differs from 2.5, but it is not like what they make now).
It has a completely different movt. finish, case profile with thick lugs, dial which has a very old layout with L SWISS MADE L written close to the number "6", famous "Low A", and of course the shape of the sandwich numbers, which is not easy to confuse with V3+. Even the lume shade is completely different. There are many things, but the point is that the author calls it an early noob, which it is.

 

[crashuid]

You guys are impressive.
Now the biggest question is XF PAM111 or pull the trigger on this one.

 

[KOT1917]

You guys are impressive.
Now the biggest question is XF PAM111 or pull the trigger on this one.

But this will be your decision alone. I don't see it as ethical to push someone to a certain decision in a public manner, in the process of an existing, approved sale. You know what it is, what the alternatives are, and you yourself are able to compare and come to the conclusion that you like more. (Especially since it is more profitable, given the cost of delivery, waiting times, etc., only for you).

 

[marcsp2675]

@KOT1917 can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Noob started the Y incabloc with their V4 so if you have a V4 should have the Y incabloc. The watch the OP is considering does not have that movement feature so it is probably a V1, V2 or V3.

well, I stand corrected! Thank you, Sir.

 

[marcsp2675]

You guys are impressive.
Now the biggest question is XF PAM111 or pull the trigger on this one.

impressive, indeed.