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Can i simple move the "arrow" between "+" and "-" on the Pam 1111n??

linkielei

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You can see that most "arrow" on the Pam111n will more in the "-" and dont touch the long screw....how can i move this in the balance position between "+" and "-" and sothat it can touch the long screw too???
Will this effect the movement???
Is this "arrow" the "incabolic" you always mention???

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acoustix

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That's the micro adjustment regulator to adjust the speed of your watch. Move the dagger + to increase speed if your watch is running slow and vice versa.

To adjust the screw so it touches the dagger u would need to remove the movement (unless there's a simpler way I'm unaware of).
 

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Tiny adjustments, only mess with a watch if you know what your doing,
 

linkielei

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That's the micro adjustment regulator to adjust the speed of your watch. Move the dagger + to increase speed if your watch is running slow and vice versa.

To adjust the screw so it touches the dagger u would need to remove the movement (unless there's a simpler way I'm unaware of).

Can i simply move the dagger with hand or must i do something es to make this dagger in balance Position?? if i try to move it with hand, will this damage the movement???
PS: And what is the Incabolic???
 

cwazy1

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if you move it... your watch will not be accurate any more.
 

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The only reason this should be moved is for regulation of your watch, to speed it up or to slow it down. Just remember the balance or round thing that spins back and forth is the heart of the watch without it it will not run so be careful around it.

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If you just want the little screw to touch grab some needle noes plyers and turn it very carefully

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Oh and inabolic is the the name of shock resistant jewel they use for the balanc, if you look the jewel above the balance this is where the inabolicb set up would be

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You cannot just move the dagger. The movement must be uncased and and the adjustment screw must be adjusted in or out.

The swan neck is there to apply pressure and keep the adjustment dagger where it is. You cannot simply use pliers! (please DO NOT do this )

If you try to move the dagger to the - the swan neck will spring it back to the screw.
 

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You say not to use pliers, well if you.don't have screw drivers a tiny set of pliers will work as long as your careful all your doing is turning a screw about half a turn maybe more depending on how much adjusting you did. But I think if you don't know what your doing DON'T TOUCH IT have someone who knows do it.

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OMG!! Please no more Swan Neck adjustments

Hi linkiele

The question is WHY do you want to move the “arrow†(regulator lever) ?

This lever is used to regulate the speed of the movement, if you move it to (+) the watch run FASTER and if you move it to (-) the watch run SLOWER.
If you don’t need adjust the speed of your watch you don’t need to adjust the lever.

Do you want move the regulator lever to get it touching the tip of the screw, in order to get a more cosmetically correct position of the swan neck device?
You should know that if you make that, the watch will run faster, and most likely the regulator gets unstuck from the Swan Neck spring (because this spring has no force, due to that the lever doesn’t touch the screw) and you will have ruined your cosmetic purposes.


WHAT HAPPENS ABOUT SWAN NECK LAST DAYS ???

After several years of horrible Swan Necks in replicas, nowadays all people seem worried about that.
The Swan Neck in replica is like that and mainly in Noob watches. You can make nothing to change it at this moment.
The V3 Noob is the same !! Nothihg has changed !!
Read about that:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showpost.php?p=1139132&postcount=75

PLEASE LEAVE YOUR SWAN NECKS DEVICES LIKE THAT, THAT HAS NO INFLUENCE IN THE MOVEMENT OF YOUR WATCH.
AND DON’T REJECT QC PICS OF WATCHES WITH THESE ISUES IN SWAN NECK DEVICES. SWAN NECK DEVICES WERE ALWAYS LIKE THAT.

Concerning Incabloc read:
http://www.incabloc.ch/incabloc_en

Concerning moods in Incabloc read:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/pcteam-panerai-opxi-113823?t=113823

Concerning problems in Swan Neck, Regulation of the watch, flaws in Swan neck devices, you will learn a lot reading:

“SWAN NECK†(Part I) – What is this? How does it work?
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/swan-neck-part-what-thisi-84846?p=831645
In this thread you will find all answers to your current questions and more.

WISE ADVICE: Don’t touch your watch !!

Enjoy your rep like that !
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acoustix

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If you try to move the dagger to the - the swan neck will spring it back to the screw.

I adjusted the timing on my 111n noob. The swan neck has next to no tensile force. It doesn't push the dagger back up.
 

linkielei

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thank you guys, i am just curious why people complain that the dagger dont touch the long screw but do nothing for that, now i know that it is not that simple,,,,,i will not touch it....
 

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I did it. Moved the neck up to touch the screw and then moved the adjuster on the spring to time it. Running -4s a day with no problems, and the screw touches like it should.
 

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Great

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ALE7575

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I adjusted the timing on my 111n noob. The swan neck has next to no tensile force. It doesn't push the dagger back up.

As usually. Like I said above

thank you guys, i am just curious why people complain that the dagger dont touch the long screw but do nothing for that, now i know that it is not that simple,,,,,i will not touch it....

Good decision if you are not a little expert and understand the Swan Neck device and the regulator completely.

I did it. Moved the neck up to touch the screw and then moved the adjuster on the spring to time it. Running -4s a day with no problems, and the screw touches like it should.

As said above if you are a little "do by yourself" man you can make a cosmetically correct adjustment. The cosmetically correct adjustment is explained in:

“SWAN NECK†(Part II) – Does it work in replicas?
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/swan-neck-part-ii-does-84847?p=831646

But read before:
SWAN NECK†(Part I) – What is this? How does it work?
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/swan-neck-part-what-thisi-84846?p=831645



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