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Calling all Noob PAM372 owners - quick question

ChadD2

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Im working with a TD that swears that both of these are noob but can not explain why the case backs are different. Which one do you have? Two or three jewels on the P3000 bridge panel? Any idea which one might be the better batch?

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Choi

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I bought one last 8month ago, I recieved first pic.
 

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I believe the first one with three jewels was one of the first reps, it was from angus at puretime, not noob.
 

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I believe the first one with three jewels was one of the first reps, it was from angus at puretime, not noob.

Yes, actually that was the second PAM372 from Angus. The first version had the gold CP and the blued screws which was immediately replaced by this one. :)
 

ChadD2

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These pictures were taken from a recent batch according to TD. He swears they are both Noob.
 

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Puretime's was N series, noob's P.
As stated by mysterio seeing the caseback clearly might help. Second pic is P series, first pic I can't see.
Since it's basically the same movement only with different decoration, noob might be using puretime's movements in the latest batch?
 

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I had the H factory which had blued jewels. But Noob one is eacty like this so you can trust your TD mate.
 
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I thought the P3000 from puretime looked way better than these pics.

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Obviously the sc movement looks more similar to the gen, but it's still inaccurate.
And it's on the back ;)
From the front the noob version is slightly better in terms of CP and engraving on dial, it costs a 100 usd less and it's based on the super reliable a6497, so I think it's a good choice :)
 

ChadD2

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I appreciate your input, but this is not the SC puretime version. Seller swears both are noob. Front dials look identical, even the difference in the Rs and the color match of the lume. Is it possible that noob is making a 372 with an sc caseback?
 
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Sorry about that. I just assumed that if the super clone was released, the other version was out of production.
 

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I had the H factory which had blued jewels. But Noob one is eacty like this so you can trust your TD mate.


The H-Factory had no blued jewels IIRC as I did a comparo with the Angus second version with the H-Fac one. I also remembered that someone noticed that the H-Fac version had one less jewel than the Angus version.

Therefore to list all versions:

N-series Angus version 1 - 3 jewels (blued screws)
N-series Angus version 2 - 3 jewels (non-blued screws)
N-series H-Factory - 2 jewels
N-series SF - 3 jewels (super clone)
P-series Noob - 2 jewels

Based on this, I would conclude that the first picture is of an N-series Angus version 2, second picture is of a P-series Noob. :)
 

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I would not like to participate in this thread. But OP is trying to get an absolute answer

OP has had a lot of PM and mails with me and I personally have answered every questions saying finally the same as explained above by mysterio.

I don't understand this thread from OP after all the info I have given him. And I don't know what did OP with all info provided by myself.

OP sent finally to me the pics of the FIRST watch back and front. I know, as mysterio says, that Noob P-series had 2 jewels.
But i have received several QC pics and info form owners about so-called PAM 372 Noob with three jewels decoration. I was not able to determine if that was the truth.

After analyzing the pics from OP I saw the FIRST watch had a dial really as a Noob and at this moment I have serious doubts about there are Noob PAM 372 with three jewels in decoration. But I cannot confirm exactly this statement.

But writing four threads more like this one, we will not get a exact reply either, since all statements will be just speculations

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Ale, I appreciate all your responses very much. I was just trying to get a definitive answer. Now look at this thread from someone who sold his noob 372. Look at the case back. 3 jewels again. It appears to be a P series. Hence, my confusion. I am hoping that we will find a definitive answer and add that information to the pam review guide.

http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=201298&highlight=Noob+pam

If Ale, et al, can't give you a definitive answer, I doubt anyone can.
 

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Ale, I appreciate all your responses very much. I was just trying to get a definitive answer. Now look at this thread from someone who sold his noob 372. Look at the case back. 3 jewels again. It appears to be a P series. Hence, my confusion. I am hoping that we will find a definitive answer and add that information to the pam review guide.

http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=201298&highlight=Noob+pam

I have widely discussed that in my e-mails and PM with you

THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE REPLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CONFIRMATION FROM NOOB MAKER

Yes, the front pics you sent to me of the first watch (with three jewels) showed a dial most likely Noob, but by pics I cannot assure it.

This is the more reliable info I can say.

If we have no answer from Noob factory or some reliable dealer we will not get the absolute reply.

Yes it would be interesting to get an answer to include it in PAM GUIDE

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ChadD2

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I'm just a novice still and was able to point out that there is indeed a P-series watch that has 3 jewels on the P3000 bridge. I have no way of proving that this watch below is a Noob, but the seller says it's a Noob and all the other pictures look like it's a noob. All the experts here have stated that the 3 jewel 372 is an N-series by Angus. I hope this additional information I discovered will somehow help. I'll stop talking about this now.

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