Bought a PAM090 today. What you guys think?

[Braa]

Hi all

I just registered today and came across this board because I was looking for a reference to find out what "exactly" I bought. It is a PAM090 but I saw that theres usually no PAM090 with see through, correct?

Pictures are here: http://imgur.com/a/1Bn6K

What you guys think of it from the look? I dont have much information unfortunateoy... :-( Wonder also what some of you think the price I bought it for.

Thanks!!

 

[Uberschall]

Hi Braa,

What you bought is a solid, yet inaccurate rep of the PAM 90.

It features the Seagull ST2530 movement which is a quite a workhorse and decoration on the rotor and overall movement denotes that it is the higher grade version - the lower grade comes unfinished.

Main inaccuracies:
- As mentioned, the see-through back with wrong markings: GMT (which the PAM 90 isn't), wrong OP/BB, production year behind the number not before, etc...
- The dreaded date change dimple on the side of the case (at 8:00) which is the immediate tell that it is a rep - this is typical of ST2530-based reps and homage watches.
- The space between the words 'Power' and 'Reserve' is too wide; the font for the numbers '0' and '40' seems to be off.

While I can't comment on the case shape, date wheel, crown guard and lever based on the pictures provided, the rest of the watch looks good overall.

How much you paid: between $80 to $150?

 

[lmmo]

Does it have a working PR indicator?

 

[Uberschall]

Does it have a working PR indicator?

The PR indicator works for watches with the ST2530; the movement has a power reserve module. :smile:

TDs usually call it A23J or simply 23J.

 

[Uberschall]

Note the date change labeled 'A' on the diagram on the right.

 

[DavidUK]

Very nice. That's what I'm looking for although from a UK based dealer. Minor inaccurancies don't bother me too much.

 

[Fettekatze]

Looks good. The most important thing is that you like it.

 

[Braa]

Wow thanks guys for all the information. Currently in Bangkok and got it from a "trusted" dealer for 3000 THB which is about 85 USD. It was the last one he got and I was wondering if any of you saw this "model" to buy somewhere.

 

[Uberschall]

I was wondering if any of you saw this "model" to buy somewhere.

PT has one which is similar on their website, with a closed back and deployment on the strap:
http://www.puretime.watch/product/pam090-black-dial-on-black-leather-strap-a23j/

The movement is the same and of the same grade, albeit no markings, which are fake anyway. :smile: The real PAM 090 movement (OP IX - based on Valjoux 7750-P1) looks like this:

 

[Braa]

Thanks Uberschall! I actually saw this one but then I was wondering why its 60.- more ;-) I kind of like the see through, but all rep I found around the net are with the closed back.

 

[Uberschall]

I have one that's even more of a fantasy model than yours; it has the same see-through back, but with a brushed case and crown guard, which also features the "REG. T.M." engraving (only found on 1950 models).

It is an excellent time keeper and although it isn't an accurate rep, I like it enough to have put a python strap on it.

For future rep purchases, be sure to read ALE7575's excellent guide:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/...earch-Identification-Evaluation-amp-Selection

 

[Braa]

Thanks Uberschall. Found somebody who got the exact same one from Rochest. Thanks a lot!

 

[ryantunna]

I bought this exact same rep on canal street around 5 years ago! the movement died after around 6 months. I thought it was amazing back before I discovered the rep world.

 

[Uberschall]

I bought this exact same rep on canal street around 5 years ago!

Yep, that's where I got mine too... Mine is still going strong. No issues whatsoever. :happy:

 

[Ruski91]

Congrats - this was my first rep too! Great looking piece. Not the most accurate but for the price and functionality it was great for me (As a starter), but then you move on to greater things!!!

Maybe we can hope that one day, we will have an accurate and fully functioning version of this rep

 

[ryantunna]

Yep, that's where I got mine too... Mine is still going strong. No issues whatsoever. :happy:

i hope it stays strong, I really did like wearing it.

 

[Uberschall]

i hope it stays strong, I really did like wearing it.

I've been wearing it every day this week - it keeps excellent time and the power reserve is accurate. :B:

 

[Crabber]

Sapphire crystal or blue tinted mineral glass?

 

[Uberschall]

Sapphire crystal or blue tinted mineral glass?

Mine is supposed to be sapphire crystal with single-side AR, which does look blueish at times.

 

[Crabber]

You can always take it to a Costco or low end jewelry store and have them test the crystal with a diamond tester (sapphire tests like a diamond). Outside of that for me tapping the glass with your finger nail is a good test...high pitch ring, its mineral, thud its sapphire.