Best Radiomir Rep

[DR3M3L]

Hey all,

I am the definition of newbie, but have been lurking for a while and have read ALE's PAM Guide multiple times. I want my first rep to be a Rad, and am actually probably in the market for two... but on to my question.

It is obvious that ALE's guide is incredible in terms of the time and effort put in, and from what I've read, my best bets on an out of the box good to go Super Rep are the 288, 346, and 388. I know that I want a Radiomir and that I am not particularly crazy about the PVD coating. Have there been any changes to the PAM Guide since it was written? Are there any new series' that have come out with anything that could be considered close to a Super Rep?

I do not want to step on any toes with this, as it's obvious to me that ALE's work was incredible with this, I just was curious if there was anything new that I was missing that I should be aware of before pulling the trigger on any of the above three (288, 346, 388).

Thanks, and I look forward to learning more around here.

 

[nielsen]

The PAM guide is regularly updated. Sometimes daily, it seems. Go with it and your subjective likes/dislikes and you won't go wrong. Just remember: these are reps., not the real deal. They cost a fraction of the genuine examples and, despite what the sellers say, they are not "1:1 the same as the genuine" goods. My latest Radiomir is a 505 from Kuvarsit (and now with a Gunny Asso strap). Every morning I think: "OK, different watch today". Then I reply: "Nah. Can't take the 505 off just yet. Another day".

 

[eshow3907]

The 346 seems to be a hot item these days. I have a 505 on the way from Sead, and am very much looking forward to its arrival. If you are into black watches, the full ceramic black seal is sure thing if you can find one. All great watches, but all have minor flaws, so temper tour scrutiny and you wont go wrong with any super rep.

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[kilowattore]

Good for you to do your research and learn which models are best replicated. All the watches you indicate are very good reps, ATM my preference goes to the 346, followed by the the 388. I'm not a fan of PAM with chrono, so the 288 would be my last choice.

In the end though what matters is which one you really like, personally I owned a 183 and own a 232 and I love both, even if they can't be defined super reps.

Go with any, you won't be disappointed

 

[medicineman13]

I love Radiomirs and had the same dilemma as you - I ended up ordering a 232- love that vintage look!


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[ALE7575]

Hi Brad
Thanks for your kind words about the GUIDE
As you can see at the bottom of each post in the GUIDE it is edited almost every day with the news.
Of course I cannot add info for a just released rep because I have not yet the info. Unless I have some info from the maker and I add it

Anyway Radiomir info is actually updated, since the last important release is the PAM 346 and I know the watch and I got one from Toro.

Your choices are good, just to assure the PAM 288 is an Hmaker, PAM 346 is only from KW, and 388 I recommend you KW too

There are other very good Radiomirs as PAM 292 J Noob and even PAM 380 H maker without forgetting PAM 505 KW and TSW-Zfac and PAM 504 KW

I have got and studied deeply all these watches:
-The most accurate OTB are most likely PAM 292 J Noob followed by PAM 288 H maker, due to closed caseback
-The best finished and gen-like appearance, leaving aside movement, is PAM 388 KW
-Maybe the nicest is PAM 346 KW, but being made of Titanium is prone to scratches, better leave it for a second watch
-Just if you like brown case and dial, PAM 505 (two versions) is a good choice.

Read PAM GUIDE with confidence and take your decision following your own taste

Good luck
ALE

 

[wat44]

My favourite is PAM183. No one in the real world will know tiny tells!

 

[BradfordCharles]

Thank you all so much for the replies. Decisions, desicions... I want them all.

I guess I will be ordering the 346 and 388, and probably a few Gunny Straps. Then it will be time to delve into the tutorials on Incablocks and Swan Necks.

I know they are all reps, I'm just trying to get the nicest reps I can and then mod them a bit to make them as nice a possible. As always, the input is much appreciated.

Thanks guys!

 

[ALE7575]

Thank you all so much for the replies. Decisions, desicions... I want them all.

I guess I will be ordering the 346 and 388, and probably a few Gunny Straps. Then it will be time to delve into the tutorials on Incablocks and Swan Necks.

I know they are all reps, I'm just trying to get the nicest reps I can and then mod them a bit to make them as nice a possible. As always, the input is much appreciated.

Thanks guys!

These are very good reps as above said

But in these reps, there are neither Incabloc nor Swan Neck mods.
These mods are for A6497 manual movements.
PAM 388 KW is fitted with a A7750 decorated like P.9000, inaccurate inverted layout
PAM 346 KW is fitted with a special Shanghai movement decorated like a P.2002/9, more accurate than previous watch but not exactly the gen and with false PR indicator

If you are looking for accuracy of movement, caseback display watches are not at all your choice

ALE

 

[sanankid]

346 would be my choice, it has it all...

 

[ReploJo]

A watch geek friend of mine scrutinized my 505, inspecting it like a freaking old watch geezer. Front, back, commenting on this or that. Gave it back and said - And here I thought you were trying to have one over on me with a copy watch, that watch is beautiful. When I told him his first instinct was right he about died in shock - his ego busted. So yes, minor flaws are just minor flaws when compared directly to Gen. Of course, there are dead give aways if you know what to look for, but apparently he didn't .

Replojo

 

[eshow3907]

A watch geek friend of mine scrutinized my 505, inspecting it like a freaking old watch geezer. Front, back, commenting on this or that. Gave it back and said - And here I thought you were trying to have one over on me with a copy watch, that watch is beautiful. When I told him his first instinct was right he about died in shock - his ego busted. So yes, minor flaws are just minor flaws when compared directly to Gen. Of course, there are dead give aways if you know what to look for, but apparently he didn't .

Replojo

Thumbs up

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[BradfordCharles]

One other thing guys...

If i pick up the 346, is it possible to mod to waterproof?

 

[ALE7575]

A watch geek friend of mine scrutinized my 505, inspecting it like a freaking old watch geezer. Front, back, commenting on this or that. Gave it back and said - And here I thought you were trying to have one over on me with a copy watch, that watch is beautiful. When I told him his first instinct was right he about died in shock - his ego busted. So yes, minor flaws are just minor flaws when compared directly to Gen. Of course, there are dead give aways if you know what to look for, but apparently he didn't .

Replojo

That would happen with many rep watches my friend, and mainly if they have closed caseback. Try it with PAM 029 Noob V2, PAM 292J Noob, PAM 243 Noob V2, PAM 288 H maker, PAM 417 KW, PAM 390 Noob, even with a lot of display caseback like PAM 111 Noob, 116,117 Noob, 388 KW, 312 KW, 088 Noob, 104 Noob, 299 Noob and H maker , 127 Noob...

And the same with other brands like HBB from V6 or old V1 and others

ALE

 

[ALE7575]

One other thing guys...

If i pick up the 346, is it possible to mod to waterproof?

You will not need Mods, just getting a WP service from a good specialist to assure the water proofing. The watch is most likely WP and it is already ready to that, but you need service to assure it, because reps have no QC enough to be sure. Just that

ALE

 

[ReploJo]

That would happen with many rep watches my friend, and mainly if they have closed caseback. Try it with PAM 029 Noob V2, PAM 292J Noob, PAM 243 Noob V2, PAM 288 H maker, PAM 417 KW, PAM 390 Noob, even with a lot of display caseback like PAM 111 Noob, 116,117 Noob, 388 KW, 312 KW, 088 Noob, 104 Noob, 299 Noob and H maker , 127 Noob...

And the same with other brands like HBB from V6 or old V1 and others

ALE

Too true, but even then it's when you are dealing with someone who looks at these things all the time. My friend, as big into horology as he is, doesn't have the skill or the eye to pick up on the 505 rep despite it's rather obvious tells, if you know what you are looking for, like you do .

 

[MiguelS]

any love for the PAM 380 ?

 

[karesz501]

I have the 288k, 388 and 232 (DSN). Had the 183 (old cartel) and the new 380.

The 232 takes my love as a replica WATCH.
The 388 is my best Radiomir in terms of style and build quality.
The 288k is the most accurate of all...

I did not like the simple 380 and 183 and I can't imagine a PVD Radiomir on my hand.

But I have golden 231 on the way, and I will let you know on that as well.

My 232

My 288k

My 388