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best milgauss gv

lilbrboi

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hey guys,

who do you think has the best milgauss gv? any help would be appreciated.. looking to spend about 130?

thanks
 

Jonny5

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until some one makes one with the proper green crystal, I wouldnt bother.

You can spot the reps a mile off. They have a clear crystal with a green outer ring.
 

co-axial

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if milgauss, go with wite or black dial and asian clone ETA (should be available for about 180 $+/-)! GV´s are not that good, due to plastic green ring simulating the effect! Sreems rep!
 

lilbrboi

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OK I'll go with the black on..

this might be a silly question:

the bamford PVD version, should it have the same green crystal like the GV. I see a green ring too..
 

lilbrboi

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good to know.. i been thinking about the bamford PVD..

have to admit the gen looks really nice!
 

co-axial

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good to know.. i been thinking about the bamford PVD..

have to admit the gen looks really nice!

Mate, we are talking reps!!! So if you like a watch, grab it:lolcina:!

Nobody can identify a rep withgout a closer look at it (for the most that is). The Fauxs are only details, never forget! If you want a gen then buy a gen:lol:!
 

lilbrboi

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sorry!

this might be silly.. can u help me understand the problem with the plastic green ring thing that people keep talking about

i am clueless on that one =/
 

marshal1085

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GV´s are not that good, due to plastic green ring simulating the effect! Sreems rep!

I'm no sure that is always the case. There are a couple different versions out there. The ones with the plastic ring indeed do not look that great. But check out the pics from Lay on another thread:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/mil-lay-gauss-66327

Some of the models appear to have a green AR put on the crystal instead of the ring. Does it look gen? Debatable. Is it better than the simple ring? Yes.

Going back to the OP, for $130, I wouldn't buy a milgauss. The cheaper movement isn't powerful enough to power the heavy seconds hand of the millie. It can create a bad stutter that screams fake.

Instead, I would opt for the Asian Clone. It is a few more dollars, but it is reliable and great movement that you will be satisfied with for years.
Such as:
http://www.replicamake.com/product_info.php?cPath=77_271&products_id=1833

Just make sure when Lay sends you the pics for it, you can see the green all the way across the crystal.

Hope that helps.
 

marshal1085

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lilbrboi, I would wait for confirmation. I said 'appears'.

But with that said, if it appears that way, then really does it matter? ;)
 

lilbrboi

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i think its more educational than a deciding factor..i just want to understand the issue that everyone is talking about...
 

marshal1085

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I'm the same way. I don't claim to know much of this stuff, but I've researched quite a bit on the millgauss due to looking at them. I actually came down between that and the new explorer. I went with the explorer with the thought of eventually trying the millguass.

A little more info, just to hammer down the point. The "ring" that they refer to is an insert that they run on the edge of the crystal. From straight on, even on the gen, all you see is the edge as green. So they simply just repped it with an insert.

The problem is, however, is that when you are at an angle, all you see is the ring. Where on the gen, you can see the whole crystal has a greenish tint. Rolex accomplishes this effect by infusing the green when the crystal is made. Since that isn't going to happen with the rep, they went the simpler route. Thus creating a 'tell'.

As mentioned, it appears the coating that lay's rep has on it gives it a more authentic look, in my opinion. There are a couple of small (very small) issues with this rep, but it is a great watch. One of the better ones out of the box.
 

AHX

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The plastic ring isn't a "problem" it just doesn't look like gen. It's one of very few watches you see around here that could be identified as fake from looking at the wrist. The green AR certainly helps from certain angles but looking at any gen there is a huge difference. Check out this image, note how the green isn't a uniform plastic ring and is visible above the edge of the case as the crystal is actually green glass, whereas the replica from that angle would be all clear with an inset silicone ring.

Milg.jpg


Here below it looks a bit more like the replica in that it looks like a uniform ring, but it is much thicker and bigger and just has a visual appearance of glass. Also note that the gen doesn't actually have green AR, it won't look green like the replica AR in real life.

poject_x_rolex_milgauss_1_nEO_IMG.jpg


Not trying to rain on your parade, Milgauss is a beautiful watch, just providing you with all the information so you can make an informed choice!
 

lilbrboi

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the images help!

now i can see why most went with the black.. i was debating the white or gv.. but it seems like its hard to have anything in orange to come sharp..

how's ur black milgauss AHX?
 

AHX

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the images help!

now i can see why most went with the black.. i was debating the white or gv.. but it seems like its hard to have anything in orange to come sharp..

how's ur black milgauss AHX?

Haha I dunno it's en route, I bought it from Puretime. I'll let you know when it gets here! I jumped the gun a bit with the signature image hehe :whistle:

However, I've done some pretty extensive research on the differences and the black face which I've ordered is very very close to gen. All three colours share the same problem in that the seconds hand is not quite right. The lightning bolt "edge" bits in the middle are too square. It is a very minor difference, mind you, and I'm sure once I get the watch it will be too difficult to even notice, but for the purposes of discussion, that is their major fault. Apart from that, from what I've seen, the face on the black is dead on. If the GV had a green sapphire and the orange markers at 3 6 and 9 were correct, I would probably have a GV on the way instead. Here is a comparison picture that kind of shows the hand difference.

PC-Champthekid-Rolex-Milgauss.jpg


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The first is a genuine black dial, the second is obviously a replica GV. You can see from those photos that the replica is a bit too thick and square at the edges. It also appears as if the replica is faded, but I believe that is just the photo, I think their colour and texture is accurate to the genuine and it is just a bad photo whereas the photo of the genuine Rolex is very sharp and bright.

Another thing you should look out for. See on that genuine black face the words ROLEXROLEXROLEX repeats around the edge? That's the rehaut, and on our replicas up until recently, it was aligned completely wrong and haphazardly. New versions are coming out where it is corrected, on the right hand side the X should always line up with the markers and the R should begin immediately after them, and on the left hand side the R always lines up and the X is after. You will see on the photo of the replica GV that is not the case. They are now correcting it, I asked Lay at Replicamake to supply me with a black Milgauss with correct rehaut and he said he could only get me correct rehaut on the GV model, so I went to Puretime and they assured me they could get me a black with correct rehaut. Just something for you to note :)

Hope this was of any assistance. I did tons of research on the replica Milgauss before I dropped $213 AUD (I would have bought the Swiss ETA model for $50 more before the excellent and helpful members here explained to me why I should get an Asian ETA and thus saved me some money :D) on one so anything I can be of assistance with. :)
 

lilbrboi

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Cool info AHX!!

I found these 2 pictures from a rep reviews. Yes, I think the second hand seems to be another known flaws, but just not as big as the GV.

Milb.jpg


Milb1.jpg
 

AHX

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Hey mate, just got your PM.

I can barely see the rehaut on that, but it appears to be correct. I say go for that (It looks the same as the one Puretime are offering me), it looks great. Definitely make sure you ask the dealer for aligned rehaut though, or they may send you an older one with bad rehaut. Just usually they have a comments section say "Please send me a Milgauss with the rehaut correctly aligned if you can please"

It really pays to confirm with them by sending a quality control picture. Case in point, I just got my Milgauss QC pictures from Angus at Puretime. They are beautiful big clear pictures with a very clearly correct rehaut...

...except the watch is a white Milgauss. An accurate white milgauss, but not the right milgauss. VERY happy I made him confirm so he didn't send me completely the wrong watch. I've replied saying great but it's not black lol
 
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d4m.test

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Hi, AHX!

I find this presentation VERY educational and fascinating! It helped answer some questions I had for you after your review of my black faced Milgauss. You really are a BIG help!! Thanks!!

dave (bbphrog)