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Best 40mm PAM (for women)

Gcnlm995

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I'm having a hard time finding the best 40mm PAM clone. I'd be grateful for any input so I know precisely what to ask for. Open to rose gold also. Thank you!


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Well I read @Grimlocktime had a PAM048 which he said was pretty good and he would make a review of sometime. And as a member of the PAM Consult Team (and a Gold Medal one at that), he would know something about Panerai. ;)
 
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I had a 40mm Pam 241 w/ Hobnail dial that I eventually gave to my girlfriend and she absolutely loved it. We ended up breaking up and thankfully she gave it back to me. I am not sure if they make a rep of the Pam 241 but I would definitely have a look...
 

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I had a 40mm Pam 241 w/ Hobnail dial that I eventually gave to my girlfriend and she absolutely loved it. We ended up breaking up and thankfully she gave it back to me. I am not sure if they make a rep of the Pam 241 but I would definitely have a look...

There isn't any rep of the PAM241 (at least good enough to consider anyway).
 
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Thank you for the replies. Going to look up @Grimlock thoughts


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I bought the 049 for my wife last year -- closed caseback, automatic, date function, white dial (which most gals prefer). Its a great piece and one of her favorites. I think DSN is where mine came from, but VSF released the 048 & 049 earlier this year. I'm sure that version is much better ...
 
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Sorry VSF DSN?


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Sorry VSF DSN?


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Different factories.

If you do not necessarily need it to read Panerai, look up Parnis Luminor Marina homages. You can get a decent one at roughly around $100, and they have much more 40" options.

You could also try the PAM535 V2 42" from V6F. I've tried on the gen and - me having small wrists as well - it was not bad at all.
 

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Different factories.

If you do not necessarily need it to read Panerai, look up Parnis Luminor Marina homages. You can get a decent one at roughly around $100, and they have much more 40" options.

You could also try the PAM535 V2 42" from V6F. I've tried on the gen and - me having small wrists as well - it was not bad at all.

I've tried Parnis when I was early into my Panerai phase. The case design is of course reminiscent of the Luminor Bettarini case but the fit and finish is far from our reps I'm confident to say. Although as the saying goes "You get what you pay for" in Parnis' case, I would like to bring up the law of diminishing returns as it applies to our reps. That as you get to a certain accuracy level, the amount needed to increase the accuracy by even a small amount becomes too great to justify. In the case of a 40mm (not
"" ;) ) Parnis (which by the way I would like to point out there is only one, not much more as you stated):

Parnis
Price : $105 Reference : Parniswatch
Accuracy level : 70%

PAM048 Rep
Price : $310 Reference : Puretime
Accuracy level : 90%

PAM048 Gen
Price : $5000 Reference : Chrono24
Accuracy level : 100%

I am being generous by putting the Parnis at 70% and conservative by putting the PAM048 rep at 90%, but anyway, to jump from a 70% accuracy to a 90% accuracy with a PAM048 rep, you are only spending $213 more, or a cost of $10.65 / % increase in accuracy. This accuracy is more on the fit and finish of the watch. Now to increase replication accuracy (which is the realm of replica watch manufacture) from the PAM048 rep to the gen, we would need to spend $4682 more, or an eye-watering $468/ % increase in accuracy.

I would not recommend on buying a PAM048 gen, if you don't have the funds nor the willingness to do so, but if you were going to consider choosing between a Parnis and a PAM rep, I would choose the PAM rep all day every day. ;)

Sorry for the long post, I felt like it (like I usually do :lol:). @Kingsman, for @Gcnlm995's reference, what size is your wrist?
 

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@mysterio I don't know why I used the inch instead of the mm - that was a massive brain fart.

I refered to Parnis for one reason only: You get a feel for the Luminor design for dirt cheap without having to pay the "premium" of a rep.
Plus I've seen some vendors let you pick your level of quality, ie whether you want saphire or not, adjusting the price accordingly.

Bottom line, your analysis was spot on; I am not rooting for any option, I just laid it out on the table.

My wrist size is about 15cm / 6". :)
 

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I have this homage watch, 40mm Marina Militare
This is my 2nd one that I bought a few months ago. These watches are great, keeping great time, waterproof, +/-$100
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This is the one I bought first, I have it 2 years now, never any problems
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Wow man ask where you bought it?


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Well I read @Grimlocktime had a PAM048 which he said was pretty good and he would make a review of sometime. And as a member of the PAM Consult Team (and a Gold Medal one at that), he would know something about Panerai. ;)

The PAM049 from V6 is super rep worthy. It's a fantastic watch. I've got one I'll try to do a review of.

With all due respect, I believe he was talking about the PAM049 unfortunately (black dial looks so much better!).

It doesn't look like the PAM048 is going to have its flawed datewheel color fixed. You could hunt for a gen DW, but I haven't been keen enough.
 

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With all due respect, I believe he was talking about the PAM049 unfortunately (black dial looks so much better!).

It doesn't look like the PAM048 is going to have its flawed datewheel color fixed. You could hunt for a gen DW, but I haven't been keen enough.

I stand corrected.
 
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I stand corrected.

You were really correct to begin with LOL

The PAM048 and the PAM049 are both AMAZING. Are you need is a datewheel for the PAM048 and it is super rep status in my book.

DSN has them in stock.
 
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@grimlock thank you so much who is DSN?


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Ah thanks so much


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are you sure you need a luminor? If I am not mistaken you can find 42mm radiomir reps like PAM718 (not super but still nice)