Asking about rolex clean price

[rolexson]

Hello, i want to buy rolex clean gmt master 2 batman clean factory, i already to see watch from 2 different shop, both same from clean factory ( have clean factory sticker) but have different price ( 589usd and 812 usd). And both watches have sticker clean factory in back cover and bracelet. I dont know what cause the price gap is so many,
My question is:
1. Is clean factory have grade quality and price for GMT batman? If have some grade from clean factory, is there any physical characteristic between that? Etc from sticker or else? Because i read in some forum clean factory have V2 and V3
2. What price retail from clean factory for GMT batman that reliable?

This is the photo for both watches i have see

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Thank for response

 

[TESLA760]

Which Trusted Dealer is this from ?

 

[rolexson]

Which Trusted Dealer is this from ?

From local shop in my country

 

[Kerbus]

You might be better off ordering one from a TD listed on this site. Based on the videos I’ve seen of people trying to buy locally, it seems to me youll get a better price online. But if you have a good relationship with this local seller and you’re good a negotiator, go ahead and try

 

[rolexson]

You might be better off ordering one from a TD listed on this site. Based on the videos I’ve seen of people trying to buy locally, it seems to me youll get a better price online. But if you have a good relationship with this local seller and you’re good a negotiator, go ahead and try

Yes i want to buy in local shop, for the price i think its okay, because if i buy from TD in another country, itu will more expensive because tax when come to my country. I'm only worried about quality watches, Is there many clean factory fake?? Because so much price gap between 2 shop ( about 200$) with same item

 

[Kerbus]

I don’t pay any tax when I order a watch to come here to the US

Who knows what you’re getting from the local guy. From what I saw, a local guy wanted more for a Clean watch than what the TDs are selling online

negotiate with the guy and hopefully you’ll get a great price.

 

[rolexson]

I don’t pay any tax when I order a watch to come here to the US

Who knows what you’re getting from the local guy. From what I saw, a local guy wanted more for a Clean watch than what the TDs are selling online

negotiate with the guy and hopefully you’ll get a great price.

In my country indonesia i must pay tax 30% price for every purchase item from other country

 

[Kerbus]

Yikes. Good luck getting the clean watch locally

 

[eBoy]

In my country indonesia i must pay tax 30% price for every purchase item from other country

30%?

There are certain states in America where you'd get abucted by the local militia to be court-martialed and subsequently executed by a squad of toddlers with neon toy colored AR-15s if you, as a local politician, ever dared to take the words "I'd support legislation for a thirty percent sales tax in the State Congress" in your mouth.

 

[baldocd]

the tax is not actually 30%.
What makes it become 30% is that every single item entering Indonesia is inspected by the Indonesian Customs. They are the gods that can decide how much duties must be paid. Their point of judgement often is based on actual gen pieces price for replica watches.
Thats why it is staggering 30% at the end; and thats why if you live long enough in Indonesia you would never be able to got a piece from overseas TD. It is way much cheaper and safer to buy from local dealers.

 

[Kerbus]

I just hope you get what you pay for locally. I wish I could still go to a flea market here and get quality reps like years ago. Those days seem to be long gone

 

[Reaps]

the tax is not actually 30%.
What makes it become 30% is that every single item entering Indonesia is inspected by the Indonesian Customs. They are the gods that can decide how much duties must be paid. Their point of judgement often is based on actual gen pieces price for replica watches.
Thats why it is staggering 30% at the end; and thats why if you live long enough in Indonesia you would never be able to got a piece from overseas TD. It is way much cheaper and safer to buy from local dealers.

Are there no agent forwarding services in Indonesia? Like a company that exports goods from China to Indonesia? They often deal in textiles or clothes from China. It is very common in all SEA countries.... it is the safest route

 

[baldocd]

Are there no agent forwarding services in Indonesia? Like a company that exports goods from China to Indonesia? They often deal in textiles or clothes from China. It is very common in all SEA countries.... it is the safest route

Indeed there are heaps of them scattered around here.
But again, most of these forwarding service is working the illegal way. They sent the goods through some rabbit holes which makes everything difficult.
It will take months to receive the goods. Sometimes when we opened the package, the item is broken due to bad handling. Then the insurance fee that we got is ridiculous as well. Other time its smooth as a baby cheek.

 

[Winni1611]

Don't care about the stickers. You can find them everywhere. Look at the clasp Code and the rehaut engraving. These numbers will Show you if it's really clean.

 

[rolexson]

Don't care about the stickers. You can find them everywhere. Look at the clasp Code and the rehaut engraving. These numbers will Show you if it's really clean.

Can you tell me the detail about clasp code and rehaut engraving that show really CF or fake CF?

 

[Winni1611]

You have to searche for this, but clean uses special number combination on their rehaut and
Clasp So you can identify it without doubt.

 

[Jcap66]

Can you post some more pictures? I’ve heard that there’s fake clean and vsf watches (pretty crazy)

 

[rolexson]

Can you post some more pictures? I’ve heard that there’s fake clean and vsf watches (pretty crazy)

Unfortunately i dont have any photo, because i think its similiar items, no thinking about fake clean factory before,

 

[Jcap66]

Unfortunately i dont have any photo, because i think its similiar items, no thinking about fake clean factory before,

Ok. It might be the same watch but one on your sellers might have avoided the 30% tax some way and can sell it for roughly the same price as a TD. If the cheeper one feels good and the movement feels smooth I would probably go for it.
We have a 25% import tax in my country for goods from outside EU but TD’s sends the watch through Germany somehow and avoids tax that way.

 

[rolexson]

Ok. It might be the same watch but one on your sellers might have avoided the 30% tax some way and can sell it for roughly the same price as a TD. If the cheeper one feels good and the movement feels smooth I would probably go for it.
We have a 25% import tax in my country for goods from outside EU but TD’s sends the watch through Germany somehow and avoids tax that way.

I think all of fake product imported without tax , because againts law. But who knows lol