ARF SH3135 VS Noob V9 SA3135

[Joeeyyyyyyyy]

I keep hearing talk about the ARF DW and how it needs to be replaced on arrival with a gen DW because as we can see its just crappy, but im also hearing the factory will be replacing the DW and that it only looks like that on the prototype. Is this true? Once the watch is released the current DW that we see in pictures will be replaced with a better one?

Also what are the main differences between the new ARF and the V9 SA3135?
The price seems it will be lower than Noobs, so im curious If there still is any advantage to the V9 or maybe the V9 will have a price drop?

Im not to sure, just curious what you guys think.

Thanks

 

[sam.rollie]

Good question.. looking forward to the answers from seasoned members.

 

[Cr7juv]

ARF has supposedly a better insert as most member will say.
Noob has better engravings.
I personally asked a member to put them next to each other and someone was kind enough to do that.

The pics: the insert both looked alike (maybe because it was the pic, IDK)

However, I noticed a wealth of sophistication in the ARF dial, as the lume pipes are closer to the size of GEN whereas the noob was too thick. Unfortunately, ARF makes it yet only with an ETA movement which one doesnt have the option to modify (good like gen). But, good news has spread that ARF will make it soon with SH3135 in 904 steel. Once that's done, people will go nuts over it.


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[Cr7juv]

Wait for ARF with SH3135, otherwise noob's movement is the closest copy to GEN. In my opinion what good does a fraction of better insert do when the movement is a total giveaway and the opposite of what it suppose to be....

....again it's just an opinion

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[muiramas]

Wait for ARF with SH3135, otherwise noob's movement is the closest copy to GEN. In my opinion what good does a fraction of better insert do when the movement is a total giveaway and the opposite of what it suppose to be....

....again it's just an opinion

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How can the movement possibly be a “total giveaway”?

You often change the time, with people staring at you from 3ft away who know the difference in crown direction between a 3135 and a 2824?

No, you don’t...

 

[ETAWatchlover]

Why the fuck are people concerned about the direction of the time setting .Set it and forget it .Bad dials CG bezels might be obvious but not the time setting.Only if you want to fuck some poor guy over by selling it as gen (Sorry for the use of swear words )

 

[Cr7juv]

How can the movement possibly be a “total giveaway”?

You often change the time, with people staring at you from 3ft away who know the difference in crown direction between a 3135 and a 2824?

No, you don’t...

Well in that case then one can get a cheap $100 watch from DHgate because no one give a #$%^ about it lol
As 70% of the population doesnt even look at what watch wearing, the remaining people wont be able to tell, the odds you run across that 1% who know about watches a very slim.


What's the point if you cant install a GEN date wheel on a useless movement ?

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[muiramas]

Well in that case then one can get a cheap $100 watch from DHgate because no one give a #$%^ about it lol
As 70% of the population doesnt even look at what watch wearing, the remaining people wont be able to tell, the odds you run across that 1% who know about watches a very slim.


What's the point if you cant install a GEN date wheel on a useless movement ?

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OK, so you're saying a cloned ETA movement is 'useless', and people may as well purchase a $100 DH Gate rep instead of a $470 ARF with an A2824.

I guess everyone buying a Sub - Noob V9 2836 or an ARF 2824 - is just dumb right?

SMH.

Thanks for your input.

 

[freediver]

There are people here with reps lasting 10 years with these asian clones
I think that says it all

 

[palaufreak]

Asian cloned movements are good, not be biased by ETA.

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[Cr7juv]

OK, so you're saying a cloned ETA movement is 'useless', and people may as well purchase a $100 DH Gate rep instead of a $470 ARF with an A2824.

I guess everyone buying a Sub - Noob V9 2836 or an ARF 2824 - is just dumb right?

SMH.

Thanks for your input.

That's not what I said if you read again what I said...lol

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[sfgerl]

OK, so you're saying a cloned ETA movement is 'useless', and people may as well purchase a $100 DH Gate rep instead of a $470 ARF with an A2824.

I guess everyone buying a Sub - Noob V9 2836 or an ARF 2824 - is just dumb right?

SMH.

Thanks for your input.

Thanks for saying that! I am planning on purchasing an ARF with the 2824 movement on purpose - and don't think it's a bad decision at all. I want the reliability of a 28.. movement and I am not planning on modding the watch.

Granted, for a while, I was debating between getting the V9 2836 due to the case being better on the V9. I looked at so many photos of the V9 vs. V6S vs. ARF (116610 LV) side-by-side, in every angle shown, until I thought I'd get cross-eyed.... And in the end realized that there was just not enough difference to my eyes to have so much angst over the whole matter.

I like that the ARF has a better dial and bracelet, and I'll live with the rest, since once it's on my wrist I'm going to be happy.

I have really learned so much from this forum, but holy cow, if you are a watch-lover with OCD it's like being a pig in mud... you could just go crazy!

 

[Rx4Time]

SH 3135/SA 3135 has a significantly higher cost to repair if the movement fails. If all else is equal, I'd get the 2824/2836 movements this way there is a ready supply of parts and the movement can easily be swapped out for an ETA or sellita for around$200 and then you should be good for a decade or more. In general the lack of parts makes me recommend avoiding the superclone movements. The SH3135 is the only superclone that I know has good compatibility with the gen Rolex components (SA is much more limited in compatibility). I've been told the SA 4130 also has a high level of parts compatibility, but my information on this is more limited and I'll be looking into this further before i buy a noob Daytona. Beyond these two movements, I'd avoid all other superclone movements. Overall ARF has released some of the best out of the box Rolex reps around, utilizing reliable movements. I'd get the 2824 ARF.

 

[Joeeyyyyyyyy]

SH 3135/SA 3135 has a significantly higher cost to repair if the movement fails. If all else is equal, I'd get the 2824/2836 movements this way there is a ready supply of parts and the movement can easily be swapped out for an ETA or sellita for around$200 and then you should be good for a decade or more. In general the lack of parts makes me recommend avoiding the superclone movements. The SH3135 is the only superclone that I know has good compatibility with the gen Rolex components (SA is much more limited in compatibility). I've been told the SA 4130 also has a high level of parts compatibility, but my information on this is more limited and I'll be looking into this further before i buy a noob Daytona. Beyond these two movements, I'd avoid all other superclone movements. Overall ARF has released some of the best out of the box Rolex reps around, utilizing reliable movements. I'd get the 2824 ARF.

I had a bad experience with the noob v9 sa3135, it went dead because it was missing some part, but eventually got it fixed. I actually have the noob Daytona in 316l ss, I don't really see the difference with 904 and 316 seems like a waste, but idk. And yes man amazing watch I got it in ice blue with the brown bezel and it is freaking gorgeous. The movement is also amazing, I had the chrono running for 2 straight days and it works perfectly. I acutally posted a video of it in r/rolex and r/watches and no one knew it was fake they went on about how sick my 75k watch was lol. Its crazy bc supposedly arf is much more visually appealing. Thousands of people saw it and not one person verbally questioned its authenticity which I find pretty amazing since the bracelet is ss not platinum like the gen lol.


https://www.reddit.com/r/rolex/comments/9s5ey6/love_this_watch_so_much/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/9s8jj9/rolex_daytona_video/

 

[Cr7juv]

I had a bad experience with the noob v9 sa3135, it went dead because it was missing some part, but eventually got it fixed. I actually have the noob Daytona in 316l ss, I don't really see the difference with 904 and 316 seems like a waste, but idk. And yes man amazing watch I got it in ice blue with the brown bezel and it is freaking gorgeous. The movement is also amazing, I had the chrono running for 2 straight days and it works perfectly. I acutally posted a video of it in r/rolex and r/watches and no one knew it was fake they went on about how sick my 75k watch was lol. Its crazy bc supposedly arf is much more visually appealing. Thousands of people saw it and not one person verbally questioned its authenticity which I find pretty amazing since the bracelet is ss not platinum like the gen lol.


https://www.reddit.com/r/rolex/comments/9s5ey6/love_this_watch_so_much/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/9s8jj9/rolex_daytona_video/

Why dont you post a pic for us then ?

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[Cr7juv]

Both movement are good ETA/SH,SA3135
But, Rolex has his own inhouse movement and the most popular being 3135. People buy watches for themselves and personal reasons. There is no better closer Rolex feeling than SH3135/SA3135.

For me an ETA defeats the feeling of a Rolex. Do I need an ETA movement to tell me time while all the parts are available? Clearly my phone does it better and i dont need any parts for it but just a charger.

SA/SH3135 is the revolutionary breakthrough as to why this hobby is what it is today... its about being the closest ! Why do people here spend about €5k on fake watches with GEN parts = because it's the feeling that makes it close to GEN as possible...and ETA takes you 5 steps backwards from the GEN feeling... dont get me wrong ETA's are still great reliable movements



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[Cr7juv]

Thanks for saying that! I am planning on purchasing an ARF with the 2824 movement on purpose - and don't think it's a bad decision at all. I want the reliability of a 28.. movement and I am not planning on modding the watch.

Granted, for a while, I was debating between getting the V9 2836 due to the case being better on the V9. I looked at so many photos of the V9 vs. V6S vs. ARF (116610 LV) side-by-side, in every angle shown, until I thought I'd get cross-eyed.... And in the end realized that there was just not enough difference to my eyes to have so much angst over the whole matter.

I like that the ARF has a better dial and bracelet, and I'll live with the rest, since once it's on my wrist I'm going to be happy.

I have really learned so much from this forum, but holy cow, if you are a watch-lover with OCD it's like being a pig in mud... you could just go crazy!

I am sure you will enjoy your ARF watch very much. In the end of the day you have to go with your gut feeling as to what suits you personally best

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[muiramas]

Thanks for saying that! I am planning on purchasing an ARF with the 2824 movement on purpose - and don't think it's a bad decision at all. I want the reliability of a 28.. movement and I am not planning on modding the watch.

Granted, for a while, I was debating between getting the V9 2836 due to the case being better on the V9. I looked at so many photos of the V9 vs. V6S vs. ARF (116610 LV) side-by-side, in every angle shown, until I thought I'd get cross-eyed.... And in the end realized that there was just not enough difference to my eyes to have so much angst over the whole matter.

I like that the ARF has a better dial and bracelet, and I'll live with the rest, since once it's on my wrist I'm going to be happy.

I have really learned so much from this forum, but holy cow, if you are a watch-lover with OCD it's like being a pig in mud... you could just go crazy!

Good choice. There is no difference in the ‘feeling’ at all. Same beat, same accuracy, much more reliable. The only way they will ever ‘feel’ different is how pissed you’ll be if it breaks - the ETA clone is easy and cheap to fix. The 3135 clone - good luck finding someone, and good luck sourcing those gen parts. You can get a genuine ETA installed for the same cost as a basic repair / patch up to a 3135 clone.

If you’re prepared to invest time and money in the hobby, and learn some serious repair skills then the 3135 is better. But it’s still a fake watch, fake movement and still nothing like the real thing - regardless of how it may ‘feel’.

 

[sfgerl]

Good choice. There is no difference in the ‘feeling’ at all. Same beat, same accuracy, much more reliable. The only way they will ever ‘feel’ different is how pissed you’ll be if it breaks - the ETA clone is easy and cheap to fix. The 3135 clone - good luck finding someone, and good luck sourcing those gen parts. You can get a genuine ETA installed for the same cost as a basic repair / patch up to a 3135 clone.

If you’re prepared to invest time and money in the hobby, and learn some serious repair skills then the 3135 is better. But it’s still a fake watch, fake movement and still nothing like the real thing - regardless of how it may ‘feel’.

Exactly! With all of the going back and forth, the bottom line is that this is a fake Rolex. It looks close, perhaps very close, especially to the untrained eye, but still....

About 30 years ago, when I was in a Residency program, working 100 hour weeks and not making much money, I recall buying a fake Rolex from a street seller in Manhattan (those were the days). It cost 20 bucks, and at the time the "tell" (one of many, of course, but the one that everyone talked about) was that the second hand jerked its way around and "was not smooth like a REAL Rolex".... Ha ha... I was happy with how it looked and when it died after a few years of use, I felt that I had gotten my 20 dollars of enjoyment from it!

So, I make more money than I did then, and now buy a $500 rep. I'd rather spend 8K on other things, so my choice. It's one big circle of life.

 

[Cr7juv]

Imagine you walk into the a watch store as it happened to me a while ago:

I had a jf 16610LN with a GEN datewheel installed which has the sh3135. My friend went to purchased a pre-owned Rolex 16013 from that store . The shop keeper saw my watch and he immediately said: "nice watch! This is about 2003-2007 model right? Can I see it? "
I gave him the watch and didnt say a word, he unscrewed the crown and turned it clockwise and the hands moved clockwise. Then he screwed the crown back in and said these are very rare and hold on to it as long you can.

Ewph imagine it had an ETA movement? What an embarrassment that would have been.....

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