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robbnj

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Shouldn't the 6263 have stick markers at the hours? Who the F would put a PN Daytona on that gladiator band?
I say very fishy.
 

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... and they're shipping from Hong Kong, and the description is the same for both pieces. Hmmm.
 

jmd33

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The title of this thread is a little misleading - I was expecting something different - lol.
 

levelmanroger

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Actually, the 6263 looks pretty good to me. Mainly it's the movement shots that I'm having trouble finding a flaw with. The rest of the watch could be a franken, but it's a darn good one.

The Expl2 looks like a nice rep with vintagized hands to me.

But I wouldn't buy either one off eBay from Hong Kong. Not for that kind of money.
 

Bronzy

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I did think that Daytona movement looked pretty good, but I'm wondering if he took the photo's from somewhere else? And cosmetically the watch is beautiful... not my kind of strap though! haha!

I was just wondering what the experts thought; I wouldn't buy either... HK, price, and hardly any feedback on his profile...
 

Jacks

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I can promise you they are Franken's. I have the same stuff.
 

JellyJoe

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1st thing I notice is the pictures are few, small and out of focus. Fishy. You are selling a Daytona worth at the very least 40k USD, you only take 4 bad pics of the watch and 1 is of that lousy buckle? ...
Can't see that tropic dial very well. Case is a bit thick and edgy, fake.
They are frankens and they both look good, specially the Explorer. That 1655 has gen hands 100%, they aren't so expensive after all. Interesting dial, but writings and logo look too small and grey, it might be the awful pic, but I think he cooked it in the oven. Not sure about the case cos theres only 1 pic, it might be an MBW case. CGs look thick and wrong, MBW style and crown looks fishy, bezel looks good, but it's 80's (he said his grandfather bought it in the 70's, sry, alert blatant lie). The bezel of the 70's has different fonts, specially 1s.

ExplorerII 1655 70's:
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ExplorerII 80's:

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How could his grandpa buy an 80's model in the 70's? Either he used a time machine or the poor idiot trying to scam somebody doesn't even know that difference lol.
Probably a very nice vintagized franken, with fake case. Considering 1k offer atm... A gen would be worth around 18-28k USD, go with all the papers and you have to be lucky to find one.
For the 6263 imo this guy took pics of a gen val 72 and hes going to send an empty package.
Steer clear and possibly report.

P.S. Rolexes with weird straps or sterling silver bracelets are a craze among Hollywood stars.
 

JellyJoe

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Possibly, and his grandpa forgot to go back in time and tell his son to use a condom the day that moron was generated lol

 

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LOL

Well that put aside, the movement pictures do look genuine but then again if you look at them you see it's under a different lighting. All the watch pictures are kind of orange and the movement are blue-ish. That tells me that the camera had different White Balance setting when taking both pics....
 

Jacks

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Movement is a valjou72 with stamped bridge. Original movement cost much higher than what he is asking for the watch. Heres my 6264's movement.
Some poor sucker is gona get ripped off thinking they hit the jackpot.

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trailboss99

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Well spotted, pointed questions asked.


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