AR Coating

[Irodd]

Hi,

Got today N factory 219M and 112M from Trusted Dealer.

There are significant difference in light reflection between these two.
See photos

Also
112m crystal shows noticeable violet tint if dirty/finger touched.
219M crystal still without violet tint after finger touching.

So I suspect no AR coating on 219M crystal and think about ask dealer for replacement.

Anybody can confirm my suspicions?

 

[Irodd]

Gentlemen,

Please share your opinion about this situation.
I really need your help for negotiation with Dealer.

 

[Wiz]

The crystal of the 219 may be AR coated only on the inside.

 

[Irodd]

The crystal of the 219 may be AR coated only on the inside.

Thank you for prompt answer.

I bought it as Noob factory Ultimate Edition slightly above $200 from trusted Dealer.

What is your opinion it is not minor defect and can I ask Dealer for replacement?

 

[Wiz]

I don't think it's a defect, lots of PAMs have single-side AR coatings. Also not all AR coatings are equaly good. Some coatings may left more light reflection than others.

 

[phoband]

Ok, here is my suggestion lay out who sold it and a link to the info on the watch. There isn't enough info here to give an opinion. Have you asked the dealer about why the watches were different? If so, what did they say

 

[phoband]

And note the so called like gen done by maker of gen coatings, are all only 1 sided on pams. I think it's weak and send mine out for aftermarket AR. I dont care if that's how the gen is.

So, if it were me, I'd be sending it out anyway. For slightly over 200 it is a great watch,in. No way a ripp off. Now, did you get something different described, that's another issue. Need more info

 

[Irodd]

Ok, here is my suggestion lay out who sold it and a link to the info on the watch. There isn't enough info here to give an opinion. Have you asked the dealer about why the watches were different? If so, what did they say

Dealer - Trevor
Order was made on(exact phrase from order) "Noob factory PAM219 and PAM112 with same spec as
Trevor's catalog PAM111"

I did not ask Trevor WHY there is significant difference between crystals yet, just sent pictures noted in above.

 

[Wiz]

I don't see anything wrong with the watch. The lastest PAMs have very clear colored AR, but not very strong. Plus gen Panerai watches don't have a very strong AR either.

 

[Irodd]

I don't see anything wrong with the watch. The lastest PAMs have very clear colored AR, but not very strong. Plus gen Panerai watches don't have a very strong AR either.

So You mean that despite
both watches are from same factory, PAM219 has No AR or one side AR or not very strong AR coating and PAM112 has two side AR/ or stronger AR coating
my claim has no background.

How to determine there is at least one side AR?

 

[Wiz]

So You mean that despite
both watches are from same factory, PAM219 has No AR or one side AR or not very strong AR coating and PAM112 has two side AR/ or stronger AR coating
my claim has no background.

How to determine there is at least one side AR?

It would requier at least taking the crystal out, but I'm not even sure how it could be done. Maybe by having a drop of water to slide on both sides and see if there is a difference, but that's just a guess.

 

[phoband]

Based on that, I agree they should be the same. Did you ask him why they are different? Start there. But, they should be the same, I don't know if you got better AR or worse AR than you were supposed to.

 

[phoband]

AR varies. In strength in how many sides. Also, domed crystals don't benefit as much as flat crystals.

But it appears based on the order they should be identical. So I think the place to start is, why are they different, because that would answer the question - did I get what I paid for.

Like I said, both are worth 233$ easy, so you didn't get screwed but, possibly something different Than ordered and that's a legit concern

 

[andruxa]

I am also planning to buy Noob PAM 111 Best Edition with "Scratch-proof sapphire crystal with colorless anti-reflection coating (Swiss standard, same as genuine)". Can someone who bought PAM with same spec's to confirm that there is absence of violet tint on clean crystal, and violet tint only appears when crystal have fingerprints? Can absence/appearance of violet tint be used as criteria of AR coating presence (for this particular spec)?

 

[phoband]

I am also planning to buy Noob PAM 111 Best Edition with "Scratch-proof sapphire crystal with colorless anti-reflection coating (Swiss standard, same as genuine)". Can someone who bought PAM with same spec's to confirm that there is absence of violet tint on clean crystal, and violet tint only appears when crystal have fingerprints? Can absence/appearance of violet tint be used as criteria of AR coating presence (for this particular spec)?

Your thinking to much

 

[Wiz]

Can absence/appearance of violet tint be used as criteria of AR coating presence (for this particular spec)?

Nope. AR can have a tint of any color.

For more about AR, you can check Wikipedia or the various articles that can be found using Google.

 

[phoband]

Dd you get this worked out?

 

[Wiz]

Dd you get this worked out?

Sorry mate but what does it means?

 

[phoband]

I mean did irod talk to the dealer and figure out what happened.

 

[Wiz]

I mean did irod talk to the dealer and figure out what happened.

Oh ok.