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AR Coating

watchace

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Ok, so most of us agree that one of the biggest tells on our rep pams is the blueish-purpleish AR coating on the sapph, but is there any dealer out there that has or uses a different color AR coating?

Would getting a Sapphire crystal without AR coating look better?

I know the Mineral looks clearer than the AR coated sapph, but for instance on the domed crystals the mineral just looks weird cuz it doesnt produce the same type of distortion on the dial, so I wonder how a sapph without AR coting would look on the domed crystal, and if that would be a better option that having the blueish-purpleish hue on it.

I really dont have a problem with the blueish-purpleish AR on the flat sapphire but honestly I just feel it shows WAY too much on the domed sapphire crystals, so therefore contemplating some options.

Your opinions on this subject would be greatly appreciated.
 

brtelec

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Judging from a lot of the posts on the sites regarding the AR on the PAMs, it seems that even the gens are inconsistent in regard to AR. I have seen Gens that look yellow, blueish, purplish. Hell the one consistency about a Panerai in most regards is their inconsistency. I think if it bothers you you should try other options, but as far as getting called on the AR, that is the least of my concerns.
 

watchace

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Thanks bro,

But honestly I don't give a rats ass about being called out, my humble watch collection has both gens and reps and I have yet to meet someone who even recognizes a PAM, most just say "thats a nice watch, wow its really big".

I only get comments about the actual watch brand when I'm wearing rollies, I guess you could say that my physical environment is WIS and Paneristi deprived.

I also agree with your comment about the inconsistency in gens, for example, my gen 104F shows a slight blueish hue in certain angles, mostly it shows it when light is reflected on the inverted cyclops, but still it is minimal, I have also seen a yellowish hue on my gen 27C but also very minimal, and I have held in my hand several times both a gen 217 and 127 and both showed almost NO hue color at all.

So my gripe is mainly that I dislike how MUCH the blueish hue shows on the reps domed sapph, not cuz I'll be called out on it but because it just shows TOO much, looks more like the gen MM20 with sapph which also has a huge blueish hue, and I seriously like the more clean/transparent look of the gen pams domed sapph, so trying to explore some options for my next purchase.

Make sense?
 

hooligan

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I've said this before, my gen 210I shows very little color in the AR, when it does, it's blue. On top of that the AR on my 210 doesn't really reduce reflections much, so you'd probably be better off removing the AR from your Fiddy/217 crystal. I don't know if DSN offers them with no AR, but supposedly automotive rubbing compound will remove it (got this tip from Jack at IWW).
 

pete2528ca

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would the rubbing compound not damage the sapphire or mineral crystal?
 

pammo13

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There is a company in Md. that spays on a glare coating that looks and act just like AR .

It cures very hard with heat lamps so it can be used in a commercial type application.

The company does it for show case windows to cut glare mostly for Jewelry stores. The person that told me about it coats eye glasses and loves it.


I am trying to get a 12 Oz spay can to try it out on a watch crystal.

Has anyone heard of it, "Glare Off"?
 

brtelec

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Yeah, Watchace. I figured that was what you meant, but your reference to it as a tell shaped my response. I would probably take hooligans advice and try buffing it out first. If you screw it up you then need to buy one. No great loss. Good luck. 8)
 

hooligan

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pete2528ca said:
would the rubbing compound not damage the sapphire or mineral crystal?

Sapphire, no. Mineral, I would think yes.
 

hwrdpaula

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Can't google "glare off". Other products available but primarily for TV and cars. Would give it a shot with proper reference. Anybody??
Hwrd
 

watchace

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Thanks all,

I think I'll try and source a domed sapph without AR first, If not successful I'll try removing it, I've heard that nail polish remover and/or paint thinner would work to remove it too, not sure about those though.

I posted this cuz I honestly thought that someone had already done it for sure, so please let us know how that glare off turns out to bro, and I'll post some side-by-side comparo shots when I get this project done.
 

p550racer

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Chemicals will not effect true AR coating. Get some steel buffing synthetic wheels (not steel wool) and a dremel of other rotating tool and get to work. If it is the crazy 127 crystal you will need a few wheels as the curves eat them up. DO NOT let the saphire get too hot. Take your time and ispect the results often. Uneven removed coating looks worse.

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