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APSF Royal Oak Offshore Diver Khaki Green Dial 15720ST.OO.A052CA.01

watchfarma

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Hey everyone, this model has been out a while now, but just got this in the mail, so I thought I might give it a very light review.





With the latest trend in the past few years being green watches, coincidentally also being my favorite colour, I was naturally very excited about this one. So it was also very tough waiting for a factory to release it with a clone movement. But with the swathe of Super Clone AP 4302 movements out, I figured it was only a matter of time. So here we are finally!





First thing to say is, there is a lot to like:

- Finishing is top notch in my opinion, the alternating brushed and polish surfaces are done very well.
- The bezel screws are polished to perfection and the holes themselves have the perfect depth so that each screw is recessed the slightest, much like the gen.
Which actually then reflects very poorly on some other APSF models e.g. the 15707CB, which I'll review soon.

another angle:




Another aspect I'm very pleased with are the endlink pieces; anyone who happened to read my recent review of the APSF 15707CE will know how disappointed I was with the angle that they're made and fitted. If we look at the pieces above, we can see they are very flush with the case. Also, the angling makes them fit much better on my average 7 inch circumference wrist:




No weird and unsightly gaps making the watch look even bigger!

KnBnjP.jpeg



It also helps that the strap is very soft, flexible and pleasantly textured, which, again (so sorry to say), is miles apart in my opinion from the recent APSF 15707CE strap.

A new and very welcome feature with the new AP divers is of course the interchangeable straps; the two buttons on the endlinks are simply pushed in and the strap releases. In my honest opinion. However, I haven't see many colour or style varieties on the official or third party market, so this feature does feel a little wasted. What I can say is that this feature is done very very well by APSF. The click is tactile, and the strap releases very easily and smoothly.




To further highlight how well thought out this feature is, the buckle also has a quick release function. At first I thought it was just a scratch mark on one side of the buckle but then upon closer inspection, noticed it was an arrow lol.




One then presses on that part of the buckle and the strap is able to be switched out:






As with all these quick release systems then e.g. Vacheron Constantin Overseas, Cartier Santos etc. it should be noted that unfortunately we can't just slap on any aftermarket strap, or at least not without some modding.

Buckle in correct material, stainless steel....again unlike APSF 15707CE lol





Of course, saving the best for last, the pretty impressive SA4308 movement. I know people will criticise, but for me, I'm totally blown away by how fast this was released after the SA3120 was released, and more so, after the gen was released!!! For me and my particular circumstance, with so many watches to rotate between, and saving the APs to rare occasions, this serves me...more than fine. Having just received it I haven't had time to test it for power reserve and winding efficiency, though the rotor being dual winding, isn't extremely free flowing, though seemingly smooth enough. We all know this is partially because we aren't paying thousands, perhaps evens tens of thousands for a precious metal rotor, though hopefully this winds and keeps better power reserve than my 15510.





There's been plenty of other reviews focusing on the movement itself, pros and cons etc so these are just for entertianment. Worth noting is this is not an SA4302 as I initially thought, but an SA4308. As mentioned in some other posts, the base is the same though there are some small variations. All the more impressive! IMO




Finishing off with a blurry lume shot lol Very good in my opinion.




Oh and maybe slip in one of the state of the collection...haha....embarrassing in some ways. But glad I can share here without criticism...not too much anyway lol




Cheers!
 

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Thank you for your review it is well written and comprehensive and helpful for guys looking for the same model.
I’m glad your review focused on the quality of the rep rather than attempting to compare it to the gen, which can create unnecessary anxiety in guys seeking to wear “close to gen” watches while paying far from gen prices.
It is a watch well worth its asking price. Wear it well and I am looking forward to more reviews written this way. Reps are reps and should be assessed independent of the gen. If details are to be compared then let’s not forget the price comparison as well for the complete picture.
 

watchfarma

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Thanks as always @legend and everyone else for the great feedback and pointing out that comparing with a gen can cause anxiety! I hadn't even noticed even though I just realised I'm very much affected by said anxiety every time I get a new watch in hand and start comparing to gen pics :ROFLMAO: Very wise advice indeed, wear it and enjoy it well! And for me, just continue marveling at just how far along reps have come all these years; and allowing us to get at least 80% of the experience for less than 5-10% of the price depending on the model!
 

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Great review and visuals! Which TD did you get it from?
Thanks!
 

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Thanks as always @legend and everyone else for the great feedback and pointing out that comparing with a gen can cause anxiety! I hadn't even noticed even though I just realised I'm very much affected by said anxiety every time I get a new watch in hand and start comparing to gen pics :ROFLMAO: Very wise advice indeed, wear it and enjoy it well! And for me, just continue marveling at just how far along reps have come all these years; and allowing us to get at least 80% of the experience for less than 5-10% of the price depending on the model!
I do understand the so called “comparo anxiety” of course. But my point is that with the rep being a couple of hundred dollars, and the gen being many times the price, this needs to be taken into account if the rep and gen are to be compared. The gen has its value and worth but so does the rep. There are always tells, it’s a matter of how close you look and even if you can’t see any, you’ll always know it’s a rep. And this knowledge is something only rep owners will have, so there will always be one salient difference wearing the gen and rep no matter how close the rep is.
The value and worth of the rep imho is to allow owners to enjoy the novelty of wearing a watch which resembles the gen but without the relatively hefty price tag. So there is no need for comparison, they will always be different even if they look nearly identical. “Tells” need to be evaluated holistically rather than confined to the details of the watch. The wearer profile, confidence and lifestyle are always factors in pulling off an AP like a boss, and ironically the guys asking about the “closest to gen” models often lack the security to wear what they really like, needing instead to rely on community opinions to know which watch to buy in order not to be called out. That alone already eliminates the confidence needed to pull off an AP on the wrist in real life.

A rep will always be a rep no matter how you cook it. The key aspect in pulling it off successfully in real life is just to look and think the part and the rest will follow. Yes details matter to a certain degree but guys are seldom called out by details residing in a 40mm+ object in real life, especially when adding the usual social spacing and courtesy in the equation. Unless someone walks around with his eyes 20cm away from your watch over a period of time, and possesses the relevant knowledge and intentions, you can get away with whatever you choose to wear without problems as long as you look and act the part. If you’re anxious about flaws, then the watch isn’t for you, pick another.
 
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Hey everyone, this model has been out a while now, but just got this in the mail, so I thought I might give it a very light review.





With the latest trend in the past few years being green watches, coincidentally also being my favorite colour, I was naturally very excited about this one. So it was also very tough waiting for a factory to release it with a clone movement. But with the swathe of Super Clone AP 4302 movements out, I figured it was only a matter of time. So here we are finally!





First thing to say is, there is a lot to like:

- Finishing is top notch in my opinion, the alternating brushed and polish surfaces are done very well.
- The bezel screws are polished to perfection and the holes themselves have the perfect depth so that each screw is recessed the slightest, much like the gen.
Which actually then reflects very poorly on some other APSF models e.g. the 15707CB, which I'll review soon.

another angle:




Another aspect I'm very pleased with are the endlink pieces; anyone who happened to read my recent review of the APSF 15707CE will know how disappointed I was with the angle that they're made and fitted. If we look at the pieces above, we can see they are very flush with the case. Also, the angling makes them fit much better on my average 7 inch circumference wrist:




No weird and unsightly gaps making the watch look even bigger!

KnBnjP.jpeg



It also helps that the strap is very soft, flexible and pleasantly textured, which, again (so sorry to say), is miles apart in my opinion from the recent APSF 15707CE strap.

A new and very welcome feature with the new AP divers is of course the interchangeable straps; the two buttons on the endlinks are simply pushed in and the strap releases. In my honest opinion. However, I haven't see many colour or style varieties on the official or third party market, so this feature does feel a little wasted. What I can say is that this feature is done very very well by APSF. The click is tactile, and the strap releases very easily and smoothly.




To further highlight how well thought out this feature is, the buckle also has a quick release function. At first I thought it was just a scratch mark on one side of the buckle but then upon closer inspection, noticed it was an arrow lol.




One then presses on that part of the buckle and the strap is able to be switched out:






As with all these quick release systems then e.g. Vacheron Constantin Overseas, Cartier Santos etc. it should be noted that unfortunately we can't just slap on any aftermarket strap, or at least not without some modding.

Buckle in correct material, stainless steel....again unlike APSF 15707CE lol





Of course, saving the best for last, the pretty impressive SA4308 movement. I know people will criticise, but for me, I'm totally blown away by how fast this was released after the SA3120 was released, and more so, after the gen was released!!! For me and my particular circumstance, with so many watches to rotate between, and saving the APs to rare occasions, this serves me...more than fine. Having just received it I haven't had time to test it for power reserve and winding efficiency, though the rotor being dual winding, isn't extremely free flowing, though seemingly smooth enough. We all know this is partially because we aren't paying thousands, perhaps evens tens of thousands for a precious metal rotor, though hopefully this winds and keeps better power reserve than my 15510.





There's been plenty of other reviews focusing on the movement itself, pros and cons etc so these are just for entertianment. Worth noting is this is not an SA4302 as I initially thought, but an SA4308. As mentioned in some other posts, the base is the same though there are some small variations. All the more impressive! IMO




Finishing off with a blurry lume shot lol Very good in my opinion.




Oh and maybe slip in one of the state of the collection...haha....embarrassing in some ways. But glad I can share here without criticism...not too much anyway lol




Cheers!
 

C124

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Looks really nice in the green, and very nice collection! Plenty of divers there! :)
 

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Good watch the green is the only color I do not have APSF did a good job
 

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I have the same model and it blows me away how well this model is made. Its a bargain for the price. Only negative is the weight of it for me, it is definitely noticeable when you rotate with lighter watches. I liked this watch so much I was tempted to get the ceramic version for weight differences, but after your negative experiences with it, it has swayed me away from it. Its too bad really.
 

watchfarma

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Great review and visuals! Which TD did you get it from?
Thanks!
Thanks! I went with Steve over at Theonewatches. I like Steve's QC pics and also he provides vids. Though that's become more standard these days I guess. Which is good :D
 
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watchfarma

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I have the same model and it blows me away how well this model is made. Its a bargain for the price. Only negative is the weight of it for me, it is definitely noticeable when you rotate with lighter watches. I liked this watch so much I was tempted to get the ceramic version for weight differences, but after your negative experiences with it, it has swayed me away from it. Its too bad really.
Haha once upon a time (and I guess even now especially with extra-weighted Tungsten Rolex reps) people aimed for heavier the better! But yes, totally agree the ceramic is noticeably lighter. - Gonna take some weight comparison pics later tonight!

Maybe I went too harsh on the APSF 15707, the finishing and feel is really amazing too, just weird that some parts were...very oddly not very good. I recently got a ZF 15707 and will be hopefully posting a review soon! :D But let's just say I like the feel of the ZF a lot more....but....it's not without its little problems too lol A little disappointing that the 6 year old JF 15707 still has them beat in so many ways and overall IMO.

By the way, I wanna say thanks to other people who replied also, I just don't think I'm level enough to like other's posts yet haha ;P
 

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Looks really nice in the green, and very nice collection! Plenty of divers there! :)
Thanks mate! That's because the divers I can still puff off reasonably well! The 44mm models really get a little too OTT large for me, that's why of the few 44mm I have, they're the darker models to look smaller or the straps are angled such that they wear tighter on the edges ;)
 
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As promised:


APSF 15720ST - 173g




APSF 15707CE - 153g





....20g difference. Hope you don't feel like you're missing out on much ;P
Mate, you need to go to The RWI Help Desk and have your multi-account issue fixed so people can see your posts without me manually approving every one of them.
 
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Haha once upon a time (and I guess even now especially with extra-weighted Tungsten Rolex reps) people aimed for heavier the better! But yes, totally agree the ceramic is noticeably lighter. - Gonna take some weight comparison pics later tonight!

Maybe I went too harsh on the APSF 15707, the finishing and feel is really amazing too, just weird that some parts were...very oddly not very good. I recently got a ZF 15707 and will be hopefully posting a review soon! :D But let's just say I like the feel of the ZF a lot more....but....it's not without its little problems too lol A little disappointing that the 6 year old JF 15707 still has them beat in so many ways and overall IMO.

By the way, I wanna say thanks to other people who replied also, I just don't think I'm level enough to like other's posts yet haha ;P
I do not think there is anything wrong at all with the APSF 15707s. They are as well made as the 15720, if not better. It’s a matter of preference of material largely. Both are reps and I think they are in the same quality bracket. Feel free to review the quality of any watch you like, but understand that it’ll be subjective.
For those who prefer ceramic, the APSF 15707s are very stellar choices. The 15720s are for those who like steel. The two watches are from different generations and the same differences in feel can be applied for the gen 15720 vs 15707. You can state your preference but I personally think that the APSF 15707s are done very well as reps and I encourage anyone considering them to go ahead.