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anyone experience with the Venus ( Lemania) clone .....

horologie_unitas

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that are used in a few of the Panerais and also Omega Speedmaster reps ? I read it is a copy from Russia...which i am not to chassed about....any experience somebody ? thanks !!
 

andreww

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It is actually a Seagull movement (Chinese). Very solid, and comes oiled, unlike the asian 7750s.
 

infinitime

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I am somewhat familiar with the Sea-gull movement, mad by the Tianjin Watch Factory in China. By way of overview, the movement is a LICENSED copy of a Venus 150/175 from the mid-1960s... the Chinese bought the tooling in the mid-1970s, when many of the Swiss were liquidating their machinery in anticipation of a a "new" quartz industry. The movement is proven, and currently in over a dozen different brands. Unlike the unlicensed Valjoux 7750 clones, which are made in a sea of small, cottage industry workshops in Guangzhou and Shenzhen, Tianjin Watch Factory is a LARGE, state owned entity, which manufactures over 25% of the WORLD'S mechanical movements, although most are for domestic consumption. They have a note-worthy history, being once one of the jewels of Chinese industry... in a way, it is comparable to the Poljot brand of the former Soviet Union.

Current production includes a whole bunch of domestic designs, as well as a few which are derivative of ETA and Venus movements. Overall, I would say the quality of their movements are at least on par with mechanical movements from Miyota (Citizen), if not better. Sadly, the same cannot be said for the 7750-clones.
 

kaiowas

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got the 212 flyback with this mov
very steady. nice movemnt
 

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horologie_unitas said:
that are used in a few of the Panerais and also Omega Speedmaster reps ? I read it is a copy from Russia...which i am not to chassed about....any experience somebody ? thanks !!
I believe Poljot got the machinery to make the 175 from Venus when they closed down a factory and make a similar movement which isn't to be confused with our ST19. However, the Chinese movement is a perfectly decent version, better than the Russian one, if I'm not mistaken.