Any noticeable difference Swiss 2836 or Asian 2836

[Watchwise1]

Hi, I have only ever bought Swiss 2836 but have read many factories just put Asian clone 2836 in watches and label them as Swiss movements . Is there any way of knowing the difference between the clone and Swiss without opening the back? Is there a proven difference in reliability? Just about to prefer a daydate and there is a £40 difference between the two movements, thanks in advance


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[ShovelnTC]

I would rather a new Asian than a cobbled bitza swiss as are mostly supplied in Reps.

A NEW Swiss is a beautiful thing but unlikely to see one in a Rep other than a BK.

Save your coin and order A2836.

 

[Versaceboy54]

I can confirm the BP 18k wrapped watches come with brand new Swiss eta 2836 movements.


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[mrsub]

the difference between real swiss eta and asian eta is not very huge from my experience. What I can tell is that the PR is a bit better on the swiss and the rotor is quiter on the swiss. Other than that, the asian can be serviced as well as the swiss and if it can be regulated to cosc standard.

 

[Rx4Time]

I've got both and the only noticible differences is the rotor noise as mentioned, and I've found that manual winding and time set the crown is a but stiffer. Otherwise they are comparable. If the Asian dies, the Swiss is a drop in replacement. Parts are interchangeable also so repairs are possible for any watchsmith who is willing to work on a rep. Overall, save the money and get the Asian clone movement and if you still love the watch when it if it dies, drop in the ETA.

 

[britain4]

As said above I have a BK with a Swiss movement in and its beautiful but it depends how much you value the feeling of winding the movement, setting the time, and moving the crown to different positions. If you are not overly fussy about this I would wager a clean and well oiled Asian movement would give just as good service

 

[bobandshawn]

I have, and prefer Swiss ETA's in my "keeper" watches. Tolerances are a little better, as is lubrication and longevity. However, this is NOT what you would be getting in a rep. Unless you are going to buy directly from a watch parts dealer - then stick to the Asian.

 

[Watchwise1]

Thanks for the expert advice, there is only £30 difference but was seeing if it's £30 down the drain. I have always bought the Swiss and never failed me.


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[atgm]

What's the PR difference like between an asian clone and an ETA? Is there any noticable difference between an ETA and a SW200?

 

[Maron]

What's the PR difference like between an asian clone and an ETA? Is there any noticable difference between an ETA and a SW200?

Could be no difference. The a2824 thar came in my bpsd had an excellent pr of I'd say close to 40 hours. It also kept time within a few seconds per day. I now have a swiss 2836 in the bpsd which is the same but absolutely has a quieter rotor and feels much more sure when winding and setting the time.

On the other hand the a2824 that originally came in my blackbay died in less than a week. It was a simple fix, just a jewel popped out.

Essentially with clones it's luck of the draw because qc is lacking.

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[happy2017]

In my experience, Swiss 2836 will have less positional variation, it is easier to regulate to -3/+3, and it holds the timing better after it has been regulated.