Advice on removing VSF P9000/P9001 from case set

[CybNoX]

heloo all

I intend to swop a v2 movement into a old v1 case set, seeking expert advice:

1. the removal of movement the crown/stem is similar to a7750; where i have to locate a hole to push down and the stem will be released?

2. where are the screws securing the movement to the case set located?

thanks very much again,
Jef

 

[capice]

Here is a pick from the mvt, you can clearly see the screws holding the mvt to the spacerring, also the little screw for the stemrelease is shown.

 

[CybNoX]

Here is a pick from the mvt, you can clearly see the screws holding the mvt to the spacerring, also the little screw for the stemrelease is shown.

thanks, the picture is not showing up. Am i right to say is these parts circled in red? thanks again

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zhf67qyoucoqdqs/pam2017010301-09.jpg?dl=0

 

[capice]

Dropbox doesn't work,it is on http://trustytimestore.com
Look for pm386mle2, there is a clear pic of the mvt with the screws

 

[CybNoX]

Dropbox doesn't work,it is on http://trustytimestore.com
Look for pm386mle2, there is a clear pic of the mvt with the screws

thanks, will try that.

 

[Grimlocktime]

The removal of the movement is very straight forward. Screws tabs and a stem release button. I have worked on many of these including swapping a few for gen movements. They fit and function just as a good movement should.

 

[CybNoX]

Grimlocktime thanks. VSF case set is also takes a Gen movement without any mod?

 

[Grimlocktime]

Grimlocktime thanks. VSF case set is also takes a Gen movement without any mod?

This is true. Would also you believe me If I told you the rep movement ring fits the gen movement without any mods? I was stunned when I discovered this.

 

[CybNoX]

This is true. Would also you believe me If I told you the rep movement ring fits the gen movement without any mods? I was stunned when I discovered this.

wow! VSF advertised that their parts can be interchange with GEN - which, i think dials and hands that could be interchange with Gen are already quite remarkable.

have you also fit an A7750 date disc on a VSF movement?

VSF has yet to correct the color of their Pam 312,320 inscriptions. Gen dial i have, i am now finding the right colored date wheel to fit.

 

[Grimlocktime]

wow! VSF advertised that their parts can be interchange with GEN - which, i think dials and hands that could be interchange with Gen are already quite remarkable.

have you also fit an A7750 date disc on a VSF movement?

VSF has yet to correct the color of their Pam 312,320 inscriptions. Gen dial i have, i am now finding the right colored date wheel to fit.

The gen datewheel is not interchangeable on the V1. I assume this is also the case with the V2.

All hands can be swapped but the seconds hand.

I found the color of the printing to be quite close to gen.

 

[CybNoX]

The gen datewheel is not interchangeable on the V1. I assume this is also the case with the V2.

All hands can be swapped but the seconds hand.

I found the color of the printing to be quite close to gen.

truly a master. thanks!

VSF's color has a tint of brown/orange. Gen has a yellow tint.

From photos, the color of V6F/XF's PAM305 submersible datewheel seems promising. Have you tried fitting A7750/Seagull datewheel unto VSF?

thanks again

 

[mt666tm]

This is the only thread that hits on a search anywhere (here and various search engines) that talks about the P9000 movement removal, so I figure I may as well keep it alive with my questions for anyone else that may need the info one day.

In regard to the stem removal for this movement can someone please verify that this is the stem release (circled in yellow on the pic of the rep mvt), and that it operates just like any other conventional stem release like in a 7750 or gen P9000 (also circled in yellow on the gen)?

The rep is visibly different from gen this regard and I don't want to bugger up the keyless works if I need to do something counterintuitive here:
-Does the rep stem need to be in a certain position for removal that will allow it to be reinstalled without any keyless works issues, or is winding position good to go?
-Does the rep stem click back in easily when the stem is reinserted, or does it require pressure on the release to allow it to set back in?

Any info on this would be very helpful, thanks!

Rep


Gen

 

[mt666tm]

Ok, no answers here so I just took a stab at it, literally.

I can confirm the stem release is similar to a 7750. In this specific case it's a recessed push button that you have to apply more pressure than you think is necessary and then the stem will slide out.

I removed the stem in manual winding mode, and the stem will go back in without too much fuss once you get it lined up however I did apply a bit of pressure to the release on re-insertion just to help it out. There is an audible "click" when it's back in properly.

As for the stab part, I have never come across a movement retention system like this before. There are four rubber slugs that sit on an inner track between the retaining ring and case. You have to slide them around with the back side of a scalpel to get them to the cutout in the movement retaining ring at 9 o'clock, then use the tip of the scalpel to stab the slugs and lift them out one by one.

Reinstallation is the opposite, just drop them into the cutout and slide them around so one is basically sitting at each lug. When all four are installed the movement is locked in place and solid.

It's a neat way of doing it once you figure it out, which took me a few minutes of eyeballing it at various angles until I knew what I was looking at.





The point of this was to reset the minute hand as it was off by a bit. Mission accomplished. Back to base Joe!