4th Rep Planned! Pam111 from Noob

[erikawatch]

4th Rep Planned! Pam111 from Noob NOT! Need PAM438 Instead!

Guys... This thing is getting really addictive!
I have done my share of research and narrowed it down to the Pam111 from Noob it appears that this is one of the all time best rep!
Not 100% the Pam I want but i think I can live with the Pam111
Here is a few questions:

V3 is the latest vers right?
I found a TD that was pushing the H factory over the Noob vers. from all I am reading they are close but noob still wins
the swan neck was a problem in the older version, has this been addressed in the V3 or whatever the latest vers turns out to be?

I think after this 4th rep... I will be done for a while... maybe.

 

[lmmo]

Why don't you buy the PAM you really want? Which one is that?

 

[Junger]

FYI... Inside the lugs on the case of Noob Pam111 V3 is terrible. Machined cut marks is very noticeable.

 

[erikawatch]

Why don't you buy the PAM you really want? Which one is that?

I dont think they have it...
I need the following:
- SS case.
- SS hands.
- Vintage color lume.
- Sandwich Dial.
- Sec @ 9.
- Maybe date.
- No special edition logo.

I don't think they make one like that =)

 

[erikawatch]

FYI... Inside the lugs on the case of Noob Pam111 V3 is terrible. Machined cut marks is very noticeable.

No visible with the strap on right? I am thinking the rubber strap =)

 

[lmmo]

PAM312 might be closer to what you look for. I have the 111 but if it was today I would get a 411.

 

[erikawatch]

PAM312 might be closer to what you look for. I have the 111 but if it was today I would get a 411.

Only reason I am getting the 111 is because how most people call it a "super rep" so damn close to the gen...
But thanks for the input I will check them out!

411:
- got the submarine
- saussage markers

312:
- adds the date.

How good are the 312 reps?

 

[lmmo]

There are many more super reps, and more so if you are willing to live with small inaccuracies in the movement (which anyway is never like a gen, even in a 111 Noob v3). Take a look at [MENTION=35350]ALE7575[/MENTION] guide (you find it on the stickies) and expect to spend some hours learning and trying to find your right watch. Don't just go with the 111 just because you believe it's the best rep.

 

[Junger]

No visible with the strap on right? I am thinking the rubber strap =)

I clearly see it with either rubber or leather straps. Depending on how the light reflects; I could easily see the lines on the inner polished lugs, even from wrist view. Do you have any ceramic line? I recently purchased V6F Pam438 with extra asso leather strap and very impressed with it.

 

[erikawatch]

There are many more super reps, and more so if you are willing to live with small inaccuracies in the movement (which anyway is never like a gen, even in a 111 Noob v3). Take a look at @ALE7575 guide (you find it on the stickies) and expect to spend some hours learning and trying to find your right watch. Don't just go with the 111 just because you believe it's the best rep.

Yea I have browsed tru it quickly... pretty extensive, the more I think about it the more I don't want the 111 lol
Thanks.

I clearly see it with either rubber or leather straps. Depending on how the light reflects; I could easily see the lines on the inner polished lugs, even from wrist view. Do you have any ceramic line? I recently purchased V6F Pam438 with extra asso leather strap and very impressed with it.

Wow... The 438 is actually closer to what I want minus the ceramic or PVD, or resistant is the black finish?
I wasn't really considering anything else then SS due to this reason... cant really refinish the black =(

 

[lmmo]

Ceramic is like that for life and PVD is pretty strong. You can buy with confidence.

 

[mysterio]

Yea I have browsed tru it quickly... pretty extensive, the more I think about it the more I don't want the 111 lol
Thanks.


Wow... The 438 is actually closer to what I want minus the ceramic or PVD, or resistant is the black finish?
I wasn't really considering anything else then SS due to this reason... cant really refinish the black =(

The PAM359 is the SS version of the PAM438, without the GMT, which is incorrect anyway and not in your must have feature list.

 

[winz]

Yea I have browsed tru it quickly... pretty extensive, the more I think about it the more I don't want the 111 lol
Thanks.


Wow... The 438 is actually closer to what I want minus the ceramic or PVD, or resistant is the black finish?
I wasn't really considering anything else then SS due to this reason... cant really refinish the black =(

how about pam 299 or pam 164? they are super rep too

 

[kampachi]

On the wrist, a 111 is definitely better than the sausage lume pams. Near impossible to be called out if you get the right case and cg. As for the 312, they have the genlike feel but unfortunately, prescriptions are too dark. ZF version has thicker fonts. Movement? Lol don't even get me started. The 6497 is closest movement to gen that you can find on a rep. With proper moddings it can be really close.

 

[Norrie]

PAM 608 would fit the bill if it had SS hands.

 

[erikawatch]

Wow...
I would like to thank all of you for chiming in!
I think mysterio nailed it! PAM359 is it! now do they make a sup. rep. of this lol I am going to sound like a total newbie, who makes the best PAM359.

But also I cannot get the PAM438 out of my mind! It looks cool s hell and its in ceramic! There is that long 25 pg thread about the PAM438 from last year.
Most complaints was:
- CP
- Inaccuracy in the movement

Has thing changed for 2015?

Man I can here for more info and to make a decision... not to get more confused and wanting more reps =)
Thanks guys!

 

[ALE7575]

mysterio is right: PAM 359 is a good choice following your requirements

No worries about no Suoer reps of this model , because the reason is that the caseback is display and you can always see a nice but inaccurate movement. But in the wrist they are really good, even better than many Super reps, and the gen-like appearance is impressive.

PAM 359 is already updated in PAM GUIDE, So you can read the PAM 359 data-sheet and make a wise decision

Even you can find there my recommendations

Good luck

ALE

 

[Ruski91]

I dont think they have it...
I need the following:
- SS case.
- SS hands.
- Vintage color lume.
- Sandwich Dial.
- Sec @ 9.
- Maybe date.
- No special edition logo.

I don't think they make one like that =)

Along with Mysterio and ALE - let me hit the nail right on the head for you. As per your specific requirements

 

[erikawatch]

Thanks guys... But now I really want that ceramic LOL!
Keep you guys posted

Thanks!!!

 

[erikawatch]

WOW... That guide is like an encyclopedia! Very (maybe too) instructive!
After a lot of internal struggle I want a PAM 438.

From reading the guide the 2 latest version are the following:

April 2015- KW-V6Fac released a rep of PAM 438 O-series, made of real Ceramic. This rep is fitted with a movement fitted with a new KP9001/B-Seagull V2 decorated movement like P.9001/B with correct NON-inverted layout based on Seagull ST2555.
July 2015- ZFac released a rep of PAM 438 O-series in real ceramic.This rep is fitted with a new ZP9001/B-V2.5 improved decorated movement like P.9001/B with correct NON-inverted layout still based on A7750.

So I think it mainly boils down to the movement ST2555 and A7750. If I am reading this correctly, both seems to be 100% ceramic... what???
I did read both sections, and I am mainly familiar with the Seagull movements, would you guys recommend the ST2555 over the A7750?

I have contacted Lucy to get me those beauties! Lets see what the difference in prices are and I have also asked her opinion.
But Seagull movements is what got me to trust asian watches! So I like them a lot!