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3KF Patek 5711 (green dial) + SWF mods

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I recently asked @popup (RC Studio) to build me a 3KF Nautilus 5711 base with SWF green dial, SWF date wheel, SWF hands, and Deep crystal. I used the 3KF green dial base because the case is good enough for me, I wanted the 3K movement, and the green dial had the right etched movement number (330 which is correct for green and 50th anniversary, not 324 which is correct for the older blue & white dials). I also upgraded to the SWF green dial, which I think is the closest to gen in color and sunburst under various light conditions. I upgraded to the SWF datewheel because the stock font is incorrect and too thin. I ordered SWF hands, to match the dial indices. I also got a Deep crystal, even though the gen doesn't have anti-glare afaik, but the it was a cheap add-on, and I wanted the dial to shine. I didn't upgrade the movement plates because the depth of the engravings don't matter to me, are hard to see in the first place, and I'm not even sure if the upgraded plates would have the correct 330 movement number.

So, here are my takeaway after spending a few days with the watch:
1) Popup is great to work with. Communication through WhatsApp was quick and his English was good. He sent me a picture of the dial before installing, which I thought was nice. After asking for some extra pics, he actually had the watch retrieved from the shipper, so again nice. He brushed and polished the watch, which looks good, though I don't have the original to compare it to. FedEx shipping was the quickest I've ever received from China. Lastly, the price for watch and mods was good. So, highly recommended.
2) 3KF movement - smooth and silent. Keeps good time. I like.
3) SWF dial - The green dial changes in color under sunlight and ambient light from light green to forest green to almost gray. It looks very good compared to the pics I've seen online, and I will never see this limited gen in real life. That being said, there are some minor annoyances. One, the PATEK PHILIPPE and GENEVA text are ever so slightly lower on the dial then gen. Hard to see with the naked eye, but it's there. the writing on the Buff dial is better aligned, but I still the SWF color is better.
4) SWF hands - The lume on the hands does not quite match the lume of the indices both in color and brightness. The hands are slightly more yellow/green than the dial markers. You can't see it in indoor light conditions, but if you look for it under brighter light or outside, you can. When charged, the hands glow brighter than the dial markers. I believe that the hand lume mismatch may actually true for the gen, but if so, it's still a bit weird, and I'd prefer they be the same.
5) SWF date wheel - Here's my biggest complaint. The datewheel is off-center to the left, which is most pronounced on the 2-digit dates. At first I thought this was just a problem with my watch, but I've since looked at Chazingtime, and his watches that have SWF dial/datewheel are also aligned slightly to the left. Nothing I can't live with, but Buff does a better job on this front (as does the stock 3KF), so maybe there's a better pairing for the datewheel.
6) Deep crystal - I don't know, looks good to me.
7) Overall - the watch looks great on the wrist and worth every penny, more so when compared to the ridiculous $200k cost of the gen.

Here are some pics (SWF dial installed on the watch, 3KF stock dial in plastic container)













 

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The ODM surpasses Buff and SW imo on the shaping of their dial plate, the stripes are much rounder and smoother, which under hard sunlight as shown in these picture makes an impression of fake VS gen.
Here on the OP dial The photos are showing a lume a bit too white flashy in my opinion and the finish of the squared markers are smelling fake from a mile (it is related to personal opinion/expectation).
I (personal as well) would doubt these hands are from SW :-( . In fact, SW used to produce incredible hand (it might have changed indeed), almost perfectly finished and these one even in forum definition photo are showing poor manufacturing finish ....
 

MyWatchIsBetter

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This is from your friend across the lake

Mate you always hating on others on this forum and others projects and always talk trash about others

WELL WELL WELL

Mate all i say is that your watch looks horrible and garbage it looks so fake even a noob can see its fake

Mate hope ya didnt spend more than $500 or $600 on that because mate it looks GARBAGE

Mate only thing going on this watch good is the date font but its still TRASH see the off center mate HAHA

It looks like complete trash

Mate learn to not be so disrespectful here even if your a member from 2006

Cheers Mate
 

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This is from your friend across the lake

Mate you always hating on others on this forum and others projects and always talk trash about others

WELL WELL WELL

Mate all i say is that your watch looks horrible and garbage it looks so fake even a noob can see its fake

Mate hope ya didnt spend more than $500 or $600 on that because mate it looks GARBAGE

Mate only thing going on this watch good is the date font but its still TRASH see the off center mate HAHA

It looks like complete trash

Mate learn to not be so disrespectful here even if your a member from 2006

Cheers Mate
Why are you so rude with him when he is just asking politely a question. You can provide your personal opinion, but a forum is not supposed to be a place for a personal vendetta .... specially when your first post is supposed to introduce yourself to the community ... here we are all passionated with personal point of view , expectations and experiences and it is a nice place to share your passion with others, but if you are constructive in your comments that would help a lot the other when reading you .... to learn....
 

MyWatchIsBetter

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Why are you so rude with him when he is just asking politely a question. You can provide your personal opinion, but a forum is not supposed to be a place for a personal vendetta .... specially when your first post is supposed to introduce yourself to the community ... here we are all passionated with personal point of view , expectations and experiences and it is a nice place to share your passion with others, but if you are constructive in your comments that would help a lot the other when reading you .... to learn....
Mate read his posts he always talk trash to others watches he think he is the best and look at him his watch is garbage hope he feel like a fool

He is a bastard look at his posts and you know from what you say his watch is no good is a cheap look watch haha

He gets no respect that bastard check his forum posts

Cheers Mate
 
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Mate read his posts he always talk trash to others watches he think he is the best and look at him his watch is garbage hope he feel like a fool

He is a bastard look at his posts and you know from what you say his watch is no good is a cheap look watch haha

He gets no respect that bastard check his forum posts

Cheers Mate
I get your assessment , but i don't understand why you are so "violent" in your wording.
In this place like in every forum each believe he has the grail product... that law of a forum, and that' fun , sometime you see people paying 3 grant for something which looks like stock or worse, but as long as they are happy, fine....
I cannot say i am fond of the watch presented here by OP as well, but it always depend on personal expectation, that's why i always mention (it my be my personal expectation because i know i am very sensitive to detail and critic to some points) ...

take this example, 99% of gen owners do not care if their patek nautilus are delivered with a misaligned date, here you'll find people zooming 1000% to realize , "shit, there is a slight part of the next number showing up when i zoom in" ....
You're approach is not neutral and you seem to have a sharp eye to recognize what good looks like, and this is super positive for such a place here, but you should moderate your approach otherwise you ll get stuck in unidirectional communication and not in exchanging with other people....that said, each can have his own approach and decide for himself....
I wish you a nice day,
Cheers,
 
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MyWatchIsBetter

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I get your assessment , but i don't understand why you are so "violent" in your wording.
In this place like in every forum each believe he has the grail product... that law of a forum, and that' fun , sometime you see people paying 3 grant for something which looks like stock or worse, but as long as they are happy, fine....
I cannot say i am fond of the watch presented here by OP as well, but it always depend on personal expectation, that's why i always mention (it my be my personal expectation because i know i am very sensitive to detail and critic to some points) ...

take this example, 99% of gen owners do not care if their patek nautilus are delivered with a misaligned date, here you'll find people zooming 1000% to realize , "shit, there is a slight part of the next number showing up when i zoom in" ....
You're approach is not neutral and you seem to have a sharp eye to recognize what good looks like, and this is super positive for such a place here, but you should moderate your approach otherwise you ll get stuck in unidirectional communication and not in exchanging with other people....that said, each can have his own approach and decide for himself....
I wish you a nice day,
Cheers,
Mate you seem to be a good lad. There is only a problem with Mr. Fletcher we know each other well lad. I'm a good lad besides to this Mr Fletcher who always trying to put down other members watches he use to trash talk others saying their watches is bad mate. So now Mr. Fletcher got his Karma and received a bad watch.

Thanks mate and hope you also have a good day.

His watch is still bad and hope he didn't pay more than $600

Cheers Mate
 

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This is from your friend across the lake

Mate you always hating on others on this forum and others projects and always talk trash about others

WELL WELL WELL

Mate all i say is that your watch looks horrible and garbage it looks so fake even a noob can see its fake

Mate hope ya didnt spend more than $500 or $600 on that because mate it looks GARBAGE

Mate only thing going on this watch good is the date font but its still TRASH see the off center mate HAHA

It looks like complete trash

Mate learn to not be so disrespectful here even if your a member from 2006

Cheers Mate
This kind of opinion and wording is pointless on RWI imho.
 

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Mate you seem to be a good lad. There is only a problem with Mr. Fletcher we know each other well lad. I'm a good lad besides to this Mr Fletcher who always trying to put down other members watches he use to trash talk others saying their watches is bad mate. So now Mr. Fletcher got his Karma and received a bad watch.

Thanks mate and hope you also have a good day.

His watch is still bad and hope he didn't pay more than $600

Cheers Mate
If this is a personal vendetta against @fletch512 then please keep it to PM. Your comments although bashing the watch show very little insight. The OP has asked for opinions and people have given them in a constructive manner. If you do not like the watch move on now. If you do not like @fletch512 then feel free to express this via PM and not in the open forum. If you find @fletch512 disrespectful to other members then please feel free to report his specific offensive comments and they will be dealt with accordingly.
 
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fletch512

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Wow, looks like @MyWatchIsBetter didn't have his coffee this morning. I'm truly honored you created an account just to bash my post. I'm sure you've been waiting and lurking for the opportunity to slander me for years. Kudos on your achievement!

As for everyone else, I thought this would be an informative post, especially since a lot of people are paying modders to upgrade their reps, and some of the SWF dial information is buried in various Nautilus threads. For example, Chazingtime has a similarly modded Nautilus listed on their website for something like $1800 (site is currently down so not sure exactly how much), in both SWF and Buff configurations. Biao also has various SWF & VVS configurations.

While I paid much less (without deco plates), hopefully this post and the other helpful people that chimed in will allow buyers to make an informed choice. Perhaps keylog datewheel is the way to go, and I'll probably order one. I actually like the SWF dial despite the small quibbles, but maybe ODM is better. Thanks for the input.
 

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I continue to say that you can put also a gen dial… but in a wrong case.. it will be spotted like a fake…
All these expensive parts are just business… no one is close to the gen.
 

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Update: I changed out the SW date wheel for a keylog (@BIONONE) date wheel, and now the date is better centered in the SW dial date window. My watch guy said it was hard to replace the date wheel because popup glued the SW dial to the movement, but now I'm happy with the overall look of the watch (3KF + SW green dial + SW hands + keylog anniversary date wheel.


 

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Is the date wheel font more bold than gen? @fletch512 if possible, could you share a few more pictures with different dates?
 

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Great watch and write up @fletch512 ! This is on my list but depleted funds due to bourbon purchases and other builds have gotten in the way!

Once again, stunning watch my friend! Wear in good health! Cheers!