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- Thread starter Sgn_vn
- Start date
- 18/1/11
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- 18/1/11
- 19,846
- 423
- 83
I agree about CP, of course
But regarding CG I cannot see differences. Am I missing something ?
ALE
- 12/4/10
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There is a difference.
1. The cg pin is too close to the edge of the CG.. Seems like the Cartel has a thicker CG..
2. The roller pin is thinner than the gen and Cartel.
3. The CG is better finished overal..
see below..with Sardonix permission..Beautiful pics and clear pic of the cg..
PT
Cartel finish and fit is one of the best I have seen(better than noob I think).
The difference are really subtle and not a deal breaker. The PT dial is nicer.. Again, it boils down to what you think will nag at you the most.. I fixate on the CG and CP..
1. The cg pin is too close to the edge of the CG.. Seems like the Cartel has a thicker CG..
2. The roller pin is thinner than the gen and Cartel.
3. The CG is better finished overal..
see below..with Sardonix permission..Beautiful pics and clear pic of the cg..
PT
Cartel finish and fit is one of the best I have seen(better than noob I think).
The difference are really subtle and not a deal breaker. The PT dial is nicer.. Again, it boils down to what you think will nag at you the most.. I fixate on the CG and CP..
- 18/1/11
- 19,846
- 423
- 83
Latest comparisons of CG
I have arranged and enlarged some CG pics for a comparison
Thickness at CG PIN side
- PT is just a bit thinner and Cartel is a bit thicker, almost no noticeable difference even with enlargement. Orange lines are placed at the same distance of GEN in three pics.
Lever PIN diameter
- There are seemingly some differences but it is a lighting effect. I think all three Lever PIN diameters are the same. See green lines
Lever PIN position
- PT has the PIN placed clearly inwards. Due to this reason maybe the CG seems thinner around the PIN
- Cartel version has the Lever PIN placed a illtle lower. See green lines
Roller Support
- PT roller support is a little thinner
- Cartel roller support is a little thicker
Engravings fonts and placements
- There are some differences between batches. I have seen some differences in QC pics and Wristshots
- Cartel and PT have bad placement of engravings in general
- Fonts are inaccurate. Mainly "R" is very noticeable.
- Following my experience with all pics observed, Pt has better fonts and worse placement overall.
ALE
I have arranged and enlarged some CG pics for a comparison
Thickness at CG PIN side
- PT is just a bit thinner and Cartel is a bit thicker, almost no noticeable difference even with enlargement. Orange lines are placed at the same distance of GEN in three pics.
Lever PIN diameter
- There are seemingly some differences but it is a lighting effect. I think all three Lever PIN diameters are the same. See green lines
Lever PIN position
- PT has the PIN placed clearly inwards. Due to this reason maybe the CG seems thinner around the PIN
- Cartel version has the Lever PIN placed a illtle lower. See green lines
Roller Support
- PT roller support is a little thinner
- Cartel roller support is a little thicker
Engravings fonts and placements
- There are some differences between batches. I have seen some differences in QC pics and Wristshots
- Cartel and PT have bad placement of engravings in general
- Fonts are inaccurate. Mainly "R" is very noticeable.
- Following my experience with all pics observed, Pt has better fonts and worse placement overall.
ALE