24 Hour subdial, how does it work?

[uzziel]

Got a rep Omega speedmaster and I'm struggling with the 3 o'clock subdial.. Shouldn't this just read the same time as your watch is set too? Or do I have the wrong idea here? I'm talking about the dial at 3 o'clock This watch using the VK movement

 

[aguida]

Yes, definetely got the wrong idea. The dial at 3 is for the chronograph. It shows the minutes and hour gone since you strated the chronograph. When you reset the chronograph those should also reset to 12.00, unless this is a DHGate or something where the dial at 3 is not functional

 

[uzziel]

Yes, definetely got the wrong idea. The dial at 3 is for the chronograph. It shows the minutes and hour gone since you strated the chronograph. When you reset the chronograph those should also reset to 12.00, unless this is a DHGate or something where the dial at 3 is not functional

AHH! The dial works and moves but don't think it's resetting, it's from a seller on here, I've also read it's to do with AM/PM but that obviously wouldn't make sense with a 12hr dial

 

[aguida]

AHH! The dial works and moves but don't think it's resetting, it's from a seller on here, I've also read it's to do with AM/PM but that obviously wouldn't make sense with a 12hr dial

Nothing to do with AM/PM. It should move only when the chronograph is activated. If it moves always or if does not reset together with the chronograph hand it is either broken or a very bad rep.

If it is broken and it is a TD you can perhaps ask for a repair

 

[uzziel]

Nothing to do with AM/PM. It should move only when the chronograph is activated. If it moves always or if does not reset together with the chronograph hand it is either broken or a very bad rep.

If it is broken and it is a TD you can perhaps ask for a repair

It does move with the main time and not the chronograph, it is a cheaper rep tho but I shall find out! Still happy with it as it's my first REP! Thanks!

 

[aguida]

It does move with the main time and not the chronograph, it is a cheaper rep tho but I shall find out! Still happy with it as it's my first REP! Thanks!

Of course, enjoy it. Chronographs are also the most overestimated complication. Everybody has one but nobody uses it , but do look good.

 

[p0pperini]

it is a cheaper rep tho but I shall find out!

Yes, it's a budget rep and doesn't replicate the functionality of the gen. Pretty much all the cheaper chrono reps only have partial if any function - you have to step up to the reps with a full clone movement and considerably higher price tag to get anything that'll work like a gen.

And even then, I never play about with the chrono function... they're way too fragile and inclined to break, or fail to reset correctly.

So just enjoy it as a cheerful approximation of what could otherwise be a horrifically unreliable complication!

 

[uzziel]

Of course, enjoy it. Chronographs are also the most overestimated complication. Everybody has one but nobody uses it , but do look good.

Yea I definitely won't be using it for it's purpose other than telling the time!

 

[uzziel]

Yes, it's a budget rep and doesn't replicate the functionality of the gen. Pretty much all the cheaper chrono reps only have partial if any function - you have to step up to the reps with a full clone movement and considerably higher price tag to get anything that'll work like a gen.

And even then, I never play about with the chrono function... they're way too fragile and inclined to break, or fail to reset correctly.

So just enjoy it as a cheerful approximation of what could otherwise be a horrifically unreliable complication!

For sure! It was definitely a trial purchase into the rep world but now I've caught the bug I'll start investing a little more

 

[aguida]

For sure! It was definitely a trial purchase into the rep world but now I've caught the bug I'll start investing a little more

That's how always goes . Welcome to the club

 

[Jossé]

I see that some of the TDs selling this model include the following in their description:

"MOVEMENT: Asia 7750 Valjoux Automatic Movement 28800bph with Decorated Rotor & Bridges/Plates like genuine Omega Calibre 9900 with Functional 3:00 Subdial Counter with Dual Functional Needles (3 Subdial Hands are joined together and cannot be reset to zero. It will look as listed on the pic when reset to zero)"

So it probably works as described, but not exactly like gen though But a nice watch anyway!

 

[uzziel]

I see that some of the TDs selling this model include the following in their description:

"MOVEMENT: Asia 7750 Valjoux Automatic Movement 28800bph with Decorated Rotor & Bridges/Plates like genuine Omega Calibre 9900 with Functional 3:00 Subdial Counter with Dual Functional Needles (3 Subdial Hands are joined together and cannot be reset to zero. It will look as listed on the pic when reset to zero)"

So it probably works as described, but not exactly like gen though But a nice watch anyway!

This VK64 movement seems to work differently as the 24hr dial actually moves when I adjust the time instead of when using the chronograph function

 

[Jossé]

This VK64 movement seems to work differently as the 24hr dial actually moves when I adjust the time instead of when using the chronograph function

Aaah, you went with a quartz version

 

[uzziel]

Aaah, you went with a quartz version

Yea, probably going to avoid looking for a correct working chronograph and just go with slightly simpler stuff next

 

[Jossé]

Yea, probably going to avoid looking for a correct working chronograph and just go with slightly simpler stuff next

Hehe If you want a functional, solid chronograph, try a Daytona rep next time! Best there is in my opinion (4130/4131, try to avoid the 7750 ones )

 

[TheBigJS]

Yeah, my cheap (RepsourceUK) DSOM which is (I think) VK just moves with the time but never actually tells the time as far as I can see. The hands just move in some random way!
It's a sweet looking little thing, but it's basically rubbish, I think I last saw it in my (step) grandsons toy box, which is about the right place for it.

 

[Dave2302]

but it's basically rubbish

LOL, a bit harsh bearing in mind the price

I'm sure you and many others know this, but the trick with the VK models is to freeze that subdial at point zero, and then enjoy them, including the Chrono which will time seconds and minutes reliably and spend the cash we save on these on the better reps

As @p0pperini has said before, the only way to get a proper Speedmaster is buy a Gen, since nobody does one that works properly and has proper subdial positions

 

[uzziel]

LOL, a bit harsh bearing in mind the price

I'm sure you and many others know this, but the trick with the VK models is to freeze that subdial at point zero, and then enjoy them, including the Chrono which will time seconds and minutes reliably and spend the cash we save on these on the better reps

As @p0pperini has said before, the only way to get a proper Speedmaster is buy a Gen, since nobody does one that works properly and has proper subdial positions

How does one freeze it?

 

[uzziel]

Yeah, my cheap (RepsourceUK) DSOM which is (I think) VK just moves with the time but never actually tells the time as far as I can see. The hands just move in some random way!
It's a sweet looking little thing, but it's basically rubbish, I think I last saw it in my (step) grandsons toy box, which is about the right place for it.

Eh I think other than that 1 dial it's actually decent quality and looks the part especially for the price

 

[Dave2302]

How does one freeze it?

10 seconds of google ....

https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTimeServices/comments/12elu3s
OK, that's a PE movement in an Omega + Swatch Speedy Moonswatch, but the principal is same with VK heres my VK DSOTM which hasn't been done yet, and below that is my "Colours of Ireland" Moonswatch ....