16610LN bad quality from trusty

[micahox]

Hello
I just received my 458$ 16610LN RAF 1:1 from trusty shop.

Bracelet is broken, and really poor quality, very light weight
then the whole watch seems really poor quality, I had a 308$ 16610LV I sold to buy this
and the quality was much better on the 308$ 316L ss:

here on the RAF 904L:
bracelet feels worse (very light and fragile)
bezel touch is very rude, and when turns its worst than a 50$ watch, really turns too loose and
when you try to move back instead of not moving its really loose
then bezel insert seems good..
for example I have a 25$ full case that I took to create a seiko mod and the bezel touch and turn are really better quality...
really disappointed from that order, I should have kept my 308$ one...

If you have a RAF 904L 16610 can you please tell me if you have same quality, or better quality?
thank you

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[treyhlb]

Hello
I just received my 458$ 16610LN RAF 1:1 from trusty shop.

Bracelet is broken, and really poor quality, very light weight
then the whole watch seems really poor quality, I had a 308$ 16610LV I sold to buy this
and the quality was much better on the 308$ 316L ss:

here on the RAF 904L:
bracelet feels worse (very light and fragile)
bezel touch is very rude, and when turns its worst than a 50$ watch, really turns too loose and
when you try to move back instead of not moving its really loose
then bezel insert seems good..
for example I have a 25$ full case that I took to create a seiko mod and the bezel touch and turn are really better quality...
really disappointed from that order, I should have kept my 308$ one...

If you have a RAF 904L 16610 can you please tell me if you have same quality, or better quality?
thank you

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To be 100% honest, the low digits I've touched feel fragile/weak.

 

[TESLA760]

One could make the same assessment between a Gen 116610 and 16610.

 

[Eldonsimon]

Why blame Trustytime? You know that they don’t manufacture the watches don’t you?

 

[treyhlb]

Why blame Trustytime? You know that they don’t manufacture the watches don’t you?

I think it's because they are the shipper and the hands on middleman and the person who shows you photos.

 

[tripdog]

If you have a RAF 904L 16610 can you please tell me if you have same quality, or better quality?

RA Factory is crap. Not the dealers fault, he didn't choose the watch, you did.

 

[Eldonsimon]

I think it's because they are the shipper and the hands on middleman and the person who shows you photos.

I think that’s an unrealistic expectation… and the photos would not have identified the quality of the bracelet for example

 

[micahox]

RA Factory is crap. Not the dealers fault, he didn't choose the watch, you did.

and he chooses the watches he sells aho

 

[micahox]

One could make the same assessment between a Gen 116610 and 16610.

in that example its logical, but in the case of 308$ 316L watch and 904L 458$ you find the better quality from the 308$ there is a big problem..

 

[micahox]

I wish you could all here touch the watch, turn that bezel and see how loose and sharp it is you would really be not paying that price for it...

Then last thing about trusty and I'm going back to my gen watches ( and my last intime replica)

when order was placed I received an email saying how lucky I was to pay my order with the payment method reserved to VIP... and I should not talk about it... and if an issue same thing do not talk about it no chargeback or you will be banned from forums..
not an expected reaction when you just ordered...
Then: no excuses, nothing, rien , nada , when saying the clasp is broken... human experience ZERO.

Bye.

 

[micahox]

Why blame Trustytime? You know that they don’t manufacture the watches don’t you?

oh really? I thought he manufactured himself all the watches.. thank you for the information boy.
maybe you do not buy gens from AD, but when you have a problem with a watch, sometimes they replace or refund a watch that needs it.
they are the seller and not the manufacturer but they take their responsibilities as seller and thats normal..

 

[CurioLeo]

oh really? I thought he manufactured himself all the watches.. thank you for the information boy.
maybe you do not buy gens from AD, but when you have a problem with a watch, sometimes they replace or refund a watch that needs it.
they are the seller and not the manufacturer but they take their responsibilities as seller and thats normal..

Collecting reps is clearly not the hobby for you. Comparing buying a gen from an AD to buying a replica from a middle man is, quite frankly, stupid. YOU chose to buy a shitty replica (if you had done a bit of research you would have discovered RAF 16610 is crap) and no, TDs don't compensate you for your dumb choices. Had you purchased the same shitty replica from any other TD, result would be the same. Blaming @trustytime shows poor judgement on your behalf. Just to be perfectly clear, a TD acquires counterfeit goods on your behalf at significant personal risk to themselves - search the consequences of extensive raids most recently, which resulted in multiple manufacturers being permanently shut down. This post says a lot more about you than Trustytime.

 

[g00n]

Then last thing about trusty and I'm going back to my gen watches

when order was placed I received an email saying how lucky I was to pay my order with the payment method reserved to VIP... and I should not talk about it...

oh really? I thought he manufactured himself all the watches.. thank you for the information boy.

maybe you do not buy gens from AD, but when you have a problem with a watch, sometimes they replace or refund a watch that needs it.
they are the seller and not the manufacturer but they take their responsibilities as seller and thats normal..

 

[Rx4Time]

..... I am lost why someone would sell a perfectly good watch to buy the exact same model made out of 904 versus 316 steel. There is essentially no difference between the two overall as far as feel or appearance.

 

[TESLA760]

in that example its logical, but in the case of 308$ 316L watch and 904L 458$ you find the better quality from the 308$ there is a big problem..

That's one of the most ridiculous posts I've read in a while. Throw the price out the window. Both reps are emulating the comparable gen.

 

[trustytime]

I have already feedback to RAF about the issue with the quality of the bracelet and they are going to work on improving it

As for the order, have arranged for a new clasp for our dear friend.

 

[KermitTheFrog]

Looking at the pictures of the RAF clasp and comparing them with the pictures of for instance the Clean version, both on Trusty's site, I can only say that you knew what you were getting before you forked out $458.
Great service from @trustytime for providing you with a new clasp!

 

[trustytime]

To add on, this member charged back on the transaction after the clasp was received by him.

 

[snaes]

That's what happens when you try to save a few bucks and rather buy a bad factory instead of the established top tiers, definitely your own fault here

 

[P..DR..D]

And in case anybody was wondering why TDs are hesitant, or flat out refuse, to take PayPal, the OP is a prime example.


@micahox
Did you miss the below thread, fall on your head, or care to explain why you did this?

https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/chargebacks-do-not-do-it-unless-advised-to.10357842/