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1560/1570 GMT Swiss or clone?

themaxx25

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Curious if this 1570 GMT is Swish or clone? Looks like it could use a good servicing.

 

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I don't believe a clone 1570 exists, although I (and many other vintage fans) would love to see one.

Looks real to me.
 
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I don't believe a clone 1570 exists, although I (and many other vintage fans) would love to see one.

Looks real to me.

Any concerns about this movement from what you're able to see?
 

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Concerns in terms of authenticity or?
Wear and could be used for a 1675 GMT. I understand some 1570 aren't always setup for GMT, there are other parts needed to make that happen.
 

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Thank you @rdothroaway. Also, I've been referring to this as a 1570, its a 1560....
 

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I guess the best way to know is to source a 1675 case and fit it! Unfortunately, I don't know any other method.

But before proceeding, I would have the movement serviced first to see if it is usable.
Will do. Thank you.
 

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That looks to be a gen 1560 movement in need of service. It would require modification for use in a gmt.
 

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That looks to be a gen 1560 movement in need of service. It would require modification for use in a gmt.
Thanks for responding. Would love to know what’s missing, it’s being sold as a GMT movement.
 

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The 1560 was the base for everything from thr OP to the explorer and Subs, add on the date plate and date jumper you got the dates and datejusts. Add on the 24 gearing and you got a GMT. I can’t recall the exact layout for the 1530/60/70 but I believe this one is not configured for GMT. I can’t find my diagram at the moment but I suspect a bit of google fu might help you out.

This might help as well.
 
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I will review, thank you!